Tom 'Pidders' Pidcock

[Rollthedice]

Let him be what he is, hype is bad.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Yesterday he decided he will chase Pog when he attacked. today he has not recovered from that effort and is dropped like a stone. on hindsight, he should be following at his own pace.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Yesterday he decided he will chase Pog when he attacked. today he has not recovered from that effort and is dropped like a stone. on hindsight, he should be following at his own pace.

lol, that 500m burst was completely irrelevant for todays performance. He's just not (yet) good at these multiple mountain stages with 4000+ elevation. Happened last year in the Tour as well.

On another note, I did like him calling out the motor in front of WVA in the valley in the interview after the race.

 

[movingtarget]

Yesterday he decided he will chase Pog when he attacked. today he has not recovered from that effort and is dropped like a stone. on hindsight, he should be following at his own pace.

He's discovering grand tour riding. Plenty of riders can handle a week or a week and a half then it gets much tougher with the fatigue.

 

[meat puppet]

Kudos for this comment:

"It’s a 17km climb and he just rode the end like it was a bunch sprint,” Pidcock said of Pogačar. “I was probably doing 700 watts or something, so god knows what he was doing.”

Last year he correctly said WVA was a "taking the piss, really".

 

[postmanhat]

From what little I've read he said a hunger flat on Saturday, and the heat on Sunday were factors in his dropping away. Both plausible, but he already seems to have given up on GC when only two minutes off a top ten? Says he'll be supporting Rodriguez from now on with pacing/bottle carrying, though by his own admission, hasn't got much experience of either.

 

[samhocking]

That's pretty much the Ineos ethos to GC, they're not like jumbo or UAE who play multiple top 10 riders at the same time. Once you're not able to podium you're there to play the team game not be a fighting for minor placing outside.

 

[Peter von]

That's pretty much the Ineos ethos to GC, they're not like jumbo or UAE who play multiple top 10 riders at the same time. Once you're not able to podium you're there to play the team game not be a fighting for minor placing outside.

yeah having 3rd and 17th is better than 4th and 9th. Also team game could also mean going up the road to stage hunt / break glass in case of emergency on stage 20.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

Now we have the situation no one wanted:

Few days ago, Pidcock makes the third placed rider crash, and Pidcock becomes third. Today, few days after the scandal, Pidcock becomes World Champion.

Questions are: should Pidcock have been stripped of his third place, few days ago? And, after the scandal, should he have been prevented from starting in today‘s race?

I am not certain, and ask you guys.

Did Pidcock even apologize after causing the crash in the race where he was third? If not, I would be disappointed.

MTBers will be furious, anyways. Road pros come, cause crashes, get privileged treatment concerning start row.

I think this switching between road and MTB/cross is not a perfect thing. Pidcock and MVdP rather should concentrate on winning all five monuments. At the moment, they start MTB, and either crash out, or win easily. And the consequences of these crashes destroy whole seasons, see MvdP few years ago, after Tokio crash.

A MTB pro by the way has no chance against a road pro coming from finishing TdF. They mostly opt for MTB because they are not good enough to be successful on the road. Then, no chance against Pidcock, who has an engine hardly ever seen.

 

[Peter von]

You could punish Pidders for the crash, but it’s not big enough imo to get him DQed for later races, IMO.

They need to figure out a system to sort the starting positions that isn’t:” oh UCI decided this on a whim a day before the race glhf. “

It’s good that riders can switch disciplines and for some riders in non-road, having a small road career on the side can really put bread on the table.

 

[Unchained]

Can't wait to see the race.. His short version.. the guy can ride a mountain bike for @20 minutes pretty @%cking fast!!!

 

[RobertCrawley]

Congrats, Pidders, but don't be a ***.

 

[Gwbert]

I’d love to see him start from the front of the grid - will this win improve his Olympic grid?

 

[Ripper]

Questions are: should Pidcock have been stripped of his third place, few days ago? And, after the scandal, should he have been prevented from starting in today‘s race?

I am not certain, and ask you guys.

It was a contentious and aggressive move (just read the arguments back and forth), and I think fairly indicative of general d0uchbaggery. But it was not malicious ... it's not like he punched another rider or attacked him with a pump! So, nope.

An MTB pro by the way has no chance against a road pro coming from finishing TdF. They mostly opt for MTB because they are not good enough to be successful on the road. Then, no chance against Pidcock, who has an engine hardly ever seen.

Ummm, van der Poel and Sagan disagree with you. Pidcock had this as a huge target all year and he has been MTB racing for a long time. No doubt racing the Tour helped, but it is much more than that.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Yes he should have been stripped of the bronze since he caused the crash by taking an aggressive line where everybody was slowing down. I donot think he apologized. Naturally then British cycling complained to UCI and the rules were changed to allow Pidcock, a British cyclist racing on British soil, a lesser disadvantage. The Top 10 of the MTB world are naturally furious since they worked the year round to get to the first row and then these guys come in and take the win. If Schurter were to not participate in the rankings and were to line up, he would lineup at the back. At the same time, these two are once in a lifetime talent and should be allowed to start with a little disadvantage like the 4th or 5th row to make it exciting for the fans and bring in new fans to sport. Just enough to make it competitive.
MTB is short intense stuff and then quick recovery with insane bike handling skills. Most road pros will not be able to do it as they are more towards endurance and donot have this kind of bike handling skills. The top MTBers would easily beat the roadies in an MTB race. The two Pidcock and MVDP are from cyclocross background and more suited towards the MTB races and are hugely talented in all aspects. But even they cannot just start without proper acclimatizing/training to an MTB schedule as MVDP found out. Pidcock was not even in the road race. Sagan finished 37th and 63rd. If it was really possible to switch between disciplines, we would have had more riders do that. But the top 10 in road is not the top ten in MTB nor the top ten in cyclocross.

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Naturally then British cycling complained to UCI and the rules were changed to allow Pidcock, a British cyclist racing on British soil, a lesser disadvantage. The Top 10 of the MTB world are naturally furious since they worked the year round to get to the first row and then these guys come in and take the win. If Schurter were to not participate in the rankings and were to line up, he would lineup at the back.

Not sure where you're getting this from, but it seems clear the change was not really aimed at Pidcock (as he had earned a reasonable starting slot by taking time out of his TDF prep to race and win a MTB race, then Sagan and MVDP had it handed to them too) and he criticised the last minute rule change when asked about it. Where did you hear that British cycling had complained?

 

[Monte Serra]

Statement by Pidcock on the last-minute rule change:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1690626447830900736

View: https://twitter.com/tompidcock/status/1690626447830900736

 

[Wyndbrook]

Statement by Pidcock on the last-minute rule change:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1690626447830900736

View: https://twitter.com/tompidcock/status/1690626447830900736

It was a change made for Van der Poel and him only.
Pidcock was only added to ensure he was not behind VDP and Sagan, why not as well.
Blanca Vas got no such consideration and had to work he way through to 5th.
Jolanda Neff is now rightly complaining that was unfair on Blanca.

 

[magliaroz]

You can benefit from something and still not agree with it, he apparently discussed this with Schurter too.
That said, someone from the Ineos PR team should teach him how to express himself without sounding like a total douche all the time.

 

[Red Rick]

You can benefit from something and still not agree with it, he apparently discussed this with Schurter too.
That said, someone from the Ineos PR team should teach him how to express himself without sounding like a total douche all the time.

I must completely miss which part of what he said is supposed to be douchy

 

[Axel Hangleck]

That said, someone from the Ineos PR team should teach him how to express himself without sounding like a total douche all the time.

He's from Yorkshire, where they don't waste words, and they call a spade a spade; that's how they are - blunt and to the point. Lots of people on here completely misunderstand him, or why he's like he is.....Also Northerners are a lot different to the soft lot down south.....

Not everybody can be like Evie.....(and she isn't from Yorkshire).

 

[Strawberry_Jams]

I saw a debate somewhere about who had the better year between van aert and pidcock before the MTB. Crazy to think at the start of year, but so far you have to say pidcock I think.

 

[meat puppet]

Don't see the douche at all. Basically the only way Pidcock could improve the statement is issue it before the start.

 

[awavey]

not sure if its been formally announced yet, but I see the Tour of Britain are starting to promo his participation

 

[Axel Hangleck]

After his win on Saturday, he mentioned having a rest; then Andorra World Cup next week was rumoured. He's also meant to be doing the 2 north America races, end of September/early October - plus the Paris test event.