Tony Martin Bandwagon thread

[auscyclefan94]

Poor bavarianreiter, he will be devastated! Tony will attack tommorow.

 

[jobiwan]

Maybe he could save himself and try and beat the Canc in Grenoble. I might even root for him that day. Was sad to see him go so early today.

Don't feel too bad, Bavarianrider.

 

[spalco]

I'm a bit sad, I like HTC and Martin especially is someone I can still believe in to be clean, but whatever.

 

[Bavarianrider]

 

[theyoungest]

I'm a bit sad, I like HTC and Martin especially is someone I can still believe in to be clean, but whatever.

This is not clinic-related, it's climbing talent-related. He can TT his way up a mountain, until a certain point.

 

[luckyboy]

lol at this.
Was never going to happen.

Also Velits.

 

[hrotha]

Also Velits.

Velits was unlucky and is not too far down. He could still do it.

 

[jens_attacks]

didn't expect it so early.that sucks...

 

[luckyboy]

Some people have posted about him getting a top 5 which was what I was referring to.

If he's lucky he might scrape a top ten.

 

[Parrulo]

Also Velits.

velits had a mechanical just when leopard started pushing.

some1 said on the race thread that he scored the fastest time up the tourmalet.

ofc he struggled in the last mountain tho.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

Velits crashed in the descent from the first climb and afterwards had to change his bike. He still got a nice result if you consider he had to pedal whole Tourmalet on his own.

 

[lancaster]

it is down to pure climbing talent.

i certainly don't think it will have helped Martins chances to be doing lead out duty though. (if he was on FDJ, AG2R, COF etc and had done zero work to this point then he could've stuck with the top 20 guys for longer (maybe multiple stages).

just sayin'

i think i voted hell no, but i certainly didn't get any pleasure from seeing him slide backwards.

 

[spalco]

velits had a mechanical just when leopard started pushing.

some1 said on the race thread that he scored the fastest time up the tourmalet.

ofc he struggled in the last mountain tho.

No, fastest up to Luz Ardiden (apparently, I don't know the times myself).

 

[Anonymous]

26 Tony Martin (Ger) HTC-Highroad 0:10:51

not too bad....he could still make it.

 

[luckyboy]

Ah ok, I missed Velits' crash.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

This is not clinic-related, it's climbing talent-related. He can TT his way up a mountain, until a certain point.

If you believe Bavarianrider, you can TT up any mountain because the steepness doesn't affect anything and all mountains are the same because we should judge them on vertical gain, not on gradient, severity, consistency or altitude. And because they don't need to put in as much effort to attain the same power climbing actually benefits heavier riders, not lighter ones.

Hence why Cancellara and Martin were the favourites to 1-2 the Tour until the shocking events of today.

 

[Kopuliak]

velits had a mechanical just when leopard started pushing.

some1 said on the race thread that he scored the fastest time up the tourmalet.

ofc he struggled in the last mountain tho.

That was probably me, but I meant that last climb to finish, where Velits was faster than Sanchez, not Tourmaled.I guess if he had not that mechanical and 2x bike change, he was able to finish with first 10 riders today.Anyway, Velits is only 1 minute behind TOP 10 and looks good

 

[auscyclefan94]

If you believe Bavarianrider, you can TT up any mountain because the steepness doesn't affect anything and all mountains are the same because we should judge them on vertical gain, not on gradient, severity, consistency or altitude. And because they don't need to put in as much effort to attain the same power climbing actually benefits heavier riders, not lighter ones.

Hence why Cancellara and Martin were the favourites to 1-2 the Tour until the shocking events of today.

LOL, very good LS! Of course steepness,length, etc matters.


Maybe Martin can pace the 'charisma lacking' peter Velits in the rest of the stages

 

[gregrowlerson]

I was a little surprised when Martin was dropped so early on the Tourmalet last night, but I immediately thought of this thread, and smiled.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Tony says he wanted in the break today, but the groups he was in were always chased down.
Maybe tomorrow then.

 

[Parrulo]

Tony says he wanted in the break today, but the groups he was in were always chased down.
Maybe tomorrow then.

i am proud of you BR. i truly am. you took martins failure in the mountains rather well and haven't tried to make up any excuses. hell you didn't even mentioned the fact that he also is on lead out duty.

 

[Bavarianrider]

i am proud of you BR. i truly am. you took martins failure in the mountains rather well and haven't tried to make up any excuses. hell you didn't even mentioned the fact that he also is on lead out duty.

Well it would be cheap to blame it on the lead outs. I mean if he lost 3 minutes that would have been an excuse. But not when you are dropped like a stone by Jens Voigt.
I hope he can show some improvement tomorrow

 

[luckyboy]

I think he will make it to the final climb in the main group - lots of time to get back on after the penultimate climb.

Assuming they're not going to be riding that hard.

 

[Amsterhammer]

I was on Tony's bandwagon last year, but then I fell off.

 

[kjetilraknerud]

Good ride today, unfortunately he found himself in a break with riders bound to outclimb him any day.