Top 10 current cyclists

[El Pistolero]

None of them are moto guys. Besides, this Danny Hart would **** his pants if he did a descend like Savoldelli. And you're the one that brought up descends here anyway.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

1. Contador
2. Evans
3. Cavendish
4. Gilbert
5. Nibali
6. Cancellara
7. A. Shleck
8. Basso
9. Thor
10. Menchov

Rodriguez
Sanchez
Frank

I went out of my way to be deliberate about a bias. I skewed in favor of consistent GC performances, and those dominating "other" categories. Among the GC, I skewed more diverse and oft racers ahead. I don't think Menchov belongs really, but the ones I would put in his place don't have a "big one". Nibali seems underrated, but I didn't read every post. Rodriguez is consistent by the way: his successes and bonks are predictable.

I think I have too many GC types, but its hard to see anyone else to be deserving.

 

[El Pistolero]

1. Contador
2. Evans
3. Cavendish
4. Gilbert
5. Nibali
6. Cancellara
7. A. Shleck
8. Basso
9. Thor
10. Menchov

Rodriguez
Sanchez
Frank

I went out of my way to be deliberate about a bias. I skewed in favor of consistent GC performances, and those dominating "other" categories. Among the GC, I skewed more diverse and oft racers ahead. I don't think Menchov belongs really, but the ones I would put in his place don't have a "big one". Nibali seems underrated, but I didn't read every post. Rodriguez is consistent by the way: his successes and bonks are predictable.

I think I have too many GC types, but its hard to see anyone else to be deserving.

Might as well replace someone like Andy Schleck with Tom Boonen then. I would never put Andy in my top ten. He has one win this season and 2 previous season. All just Tour stages.

 

[danjo007]

dunno if contador would be so high.. he hasnt won a WC has he.
why 3 years?.. is that so you can discount the fact he wasnt invited to ride TDF08.
and TDF10' he was proved to be cheating... so.... nup - he doesnt deserve to be that high.

 

[El Pistolero]

dunno if contador would be so high.. he hasnt won a WC has he.
why 3 years?.. is that so you can discount the fact he wasnt invited to ride TDF08.
and TDF10' he was proved to be cheating... so.... nup - he doesnt deserve to be that high.

Contador won the Giro, Vuelta, Pais Vasco, Castila y Leon in 2008. Please point someone out who had a better year in 2008

 

[Parrulo]

Contador won the Giro, Vuelta, Pais Vasco, Castila y Leon in 2008. Please point someone out who had a better year in 2008

even if we go all the way back to 2005(i think thats furthest back as we can go tbh) contador would most likely still be the best with maybe only boonen and canc being rivals in terms of palmares

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Might as well replace someone like Andy Schleck with Tom Boonen then. I would never put Andy in my top ten. He has one win this season and 2 previous season. All just Tour stages.

Boonen was on my long list. But, Andy is arguably better than guys on that list, like Basso or Menchov, while Boonen's rank is more disputable. It is messy though,

 

[danjo007]

before 2007 he was average at best. 2004-2006 year with the squad full of puncture wounds (and im not talking tyres), then from 2007 onward he could magically TT.
@pistolero
oh, and i know its custom for spaniards to let things slide when you've been caught with your hand in the cookie jar. (proof of his 2010case handling) - so i expect you to defend him to the hilt.

 

[Carols]

My last 3 years selections:

Contador
Evans
Cancellara
Gilbert
Cavendish
Nibali
Basso
Thor
Menchov
Valverde

 

[Gingerale]

Based on the CQ Ranking
Last 3 years (2009-2011):
1.Contador Velasco Alberto
2.Gilbert Philippe
3.Evans Cadel
4.Rodriguez Oliver Joaquin
5.Sanchez Gonzalez Samuel
6.Cancellara Fabian
7.Cavendish Mark
8.Nibali Vincenzo
9.Boasson Hagen Edvald
10.Greipel Andre

Last year (2011):
1.Gilbert Philippe
2.Contador Velasco Alberto
3.Rodriguez Oliver Joaquin
4.Evans Cadel
5.Voeckler Thomas
6.Martin Tony
7.Sagan Peter
8.Sanchez Gonzalez Samuel
9.Cavendish Mark
10.Scarponi Michele

i'd agree with the order of CQ rankings, though it is tough to not see a few favorites there. the ones on the lists and the order seems right.

 

[Ferminal]

If people want to talk about doping please take it to the Clinic.

 

[bicing]

gilbert
martin
sagan
cavendish
evans
contador
rodriguez
cancellara
hushovd
schleck

 

[Angliru]

before 2007 he was average at best. 2004-2006 year with the squad full of puncture wounds (and im not talking tyres), then from 2007 onward he could magically TT.
@pistolero
oh, and i know its custom for spaniards to let things slide when you've been caught with your hand in the cookie jar. (proof of his 2010case handling) - so i expect you to defend him to the hilt.

Since you're whining about the selected span of years that the OP of this thread selected, it may as well be turned around and ask why you choose before 2007 to begin your critique of a certain rider's performances. Additionally the OP made his/her choice of years without any particular rider in mind and yet you create this scenario where he/she's sole purpose in introducing this thread is to talk up Contador. Since creating a thread invites views from every point in the spectrum it would've risked varying viewpoints to be presented.

I suggest you create your own thread using the span of years that you prefer that would lessen the impact of Contador's performances on the sport, of course simply to satisfy your hard to disguise extreme dislike for him.


By the way, Gumby's asking for his avatar back. You're doing it absolutely no justice.

 

[Squire]

before 2007 he was average at best. 2004-2006 year with the squad full of puncture wounds (and im not talking tyres), then from 2007 onward he could magically TT.

Are you being serious?

The first race Contador won was an ITT in the Tour of Poland.

Average before 2007? Of course he was, he was still a very young rider. He also lost most of 2004 because of his illness.

 

[Panda Claws]

According to the CQ ranking

Past 3 years

1. Contador 6.737
2. Gilbert 6.731
3. Evans 5.467
4. Rodriguez 4.865
5. S. Sanchez 4.736
6. Cancellara 4.507
7. Cavendish 4.443
8. Nibali 4.322
9. Boasson Hagen 4.223
10. Greipel 4.021

That's right only a 6 point difference between Contador and Gilbert.
Those two are clearly ahead of the rest of the peleton.


This year only

1. Gilbert 3.168
2. Contador 2.373
3. Rodriguez 2.028
4. Evans 1.936
5. Voeckler 1.744
6. T. Martin 1.694
7. Sagan 1.596
8. S. Sanchez 1.576
9. Cavendish 1.469
10. Scarponi 1.437

Clear dominance by Gilbert but Contador is still second.

According to cyclingranking.com

Past 3 years


1 Contador 4.828
2 Evans 4.823
3 Gilbert 4.587
4 Rodriguez 4.182
5 S. Sanchez 4.127
6 Nibali 3.858
7 Cunego 3.347
8 Cancellara 3.246
9 F. Schleck 3.201
10 Gesink 3.199

Evans comes dangerously close on this ranking.

This year only

1. Gilbert 1.911
2. Rodriguez 1.591
3. Evans 1.544
4. Contador 1.501
5. S. Sanchez 1.411
6. F. Schleck 1.197
7. Rojas 1.193
8. Voeckler 1.113
9. Cunego 1.098
10. T. Martin 1.079


Conclusion

It is clear that both rankings are fundamentally different as will the answer to this question be: Is Contador better than Gilbert?

It all depends on whether you calue Stage races more or 1-day races. Cyclingranking.com seems more biased to Stage races though.

 

[cineteq]

It is clear that both rankings are fundamentally different as will the answer to this question be: Is Contador better than Gilbert?

Apples and Oranges re-dux?

 

[El Pistolero]

According to the CQ ranking

Past 3 years

1. Contador 6.737
2. Gilbert 6.731
3. Evans 5.467
4. Rodriguez 4.865
5. S. Sanchez 4.736
6. Cancellara 4.507
7. Cavendish 4.443
8. Nibali 4.322
9. Boasson Hagen 4.223
10. Greipel 4.021

That's right only a 6 point difference between Contador and Gilbert.
Those two are clearly ahead of the rest of the peleton.


This year only

1. Gilbert 3.168
2. Contador 2.373
3. Rodriguez 2.028
4. Evans 1.936
5. Voeckler 1.744
6. T. Martin 1.694
7. Sagan 1.596
8. S. Sanchez 1.576
9. Cavendish 1.469
10. Scarponi 1.437

Clear dominance by Gilbert but Contador is still second.

According to cyclingranking.com

Past 3 years


1 Contador 4.828
2 Evans 4.823
3 Gilbert 4.587
4 Rodriguez 4.182
5 S. Sanchez 4.127
6 Nibali 3.858
7 Cunego 3.347
8 Cancellara 3.246
9 F. Schleck 3.201
10 Gesink 3.199

Evans comes dangerously close on this ranking.

This year only

1. Gilbert 1.911
2. Rodriguez 1.591
3. Evans 1.544
4. Contador 1.501
5. S. Sanchez 1.411
6. F. Schleck 1.197
7. Rojas 1.193
8. Voeckler 1.113
9. Cunego 1.098
10. T. Martin 1.079


Conclusion

It is clear that both rankings are fundamentally different as will the answer to this question be: Is Contador better than Gilbert?

It all depends on whether you calue Stage races more or 1-day races. Cyclingranking.com seems more biased to Stage races though.

Since when does 2 Tour wins(and 3 stages), 1 Giro win(2 stages and point jersey), Paris-Nice, Pais Vasco, 2 Algarves and one Castilla y Leon equal 1 Tour, 1 WC, FW, Romandie and T-A? Or even come close for that matter? Sure is a weird ranking.

 

[Panda Claws]

Apples and Oranges re-dux?

Are you saying the answer is clear in your book?

 

[Mambo95]

Since when does 2 Tour wins(and 3 stages), 1 Giro win(2 stages and point jersey), Paris-Nice, Pais Vasco, 2 Algarves and one Castilla y Leon equal 1 Tour, 1 WC, FW, Romandie and T-A? Or even come close for that matter? Sure is a weird ranking.

Cyclingranking.com is a joke ranking which refuses to reveal it's scoring method. It has Cavendish down in 47th place for 2011, which I think even his biggest detractors would find baffling.

 

[Panda Claws]

Cyclingranking.com is a joke ranking which refuses to reveal it's scoring method. It has Cavendish down in 47th place for 2011, which I think even his biggest detractors would find baffling.

I agree, I think the ranking sucks too but I included it for comparison.

 

[El Pistolero]

Cyclingranking.com is a joke ranking which refuses to reveal it's scoring method. It has Cavendish down in 47th place for 2011, which I think even his biggest detractors would find baffling.

Lol, even I find that way too low

 

[Gingerale]

i had to go look at the cyclingrankings.com site to see what it says about the scoring:

"Scoring method
It is only possible to score points in roadraces.
All roadraces have been classified according to difficulty, importance and status of that race in its specific timeframe.
Due to the incompleteness of results in the early years of cycling, some kind of anciennity percentage has been applied to the raw scores. As results become more complete every day now, these percentages will decrease and hopefully eventually not be necessary any more.
The scoring scheme will NOT be published and NOT be provided."

CQ rankings.com at least isn't veiled in secrecy. I am not a fan of Cavendish but a serious top 10 list I would guess includes him. Actually was happy to see cyclingrankings.com have Cunego making 2011 though!

 

[cineteq]

Are you saying the answer is clear in your book?

No, I'm saying that whatever answer we give it will be subjective and biased.

 

[Quixote]

I reached my peak...last night at around 7:30...details to follow.
Anyway, how about team directors? Has Bruneel peaked? We'll certainly see with the new squad. Jonathan Vaughters IMO is on the rise.

 

[nowhereman]

Panda Claws, the best part of your collection of rankings is, that there is not an Andy in sight anywhere. Which is exactly as it should be. Galibier alone does not equal a top ten ranking. Amen.