Top 10 Most Reckless Dopers

[happychappy]

Then all of a sudden he was able to win races, as he had the same medication then the rest of the world had. Maybe had something better then the rest in 2002. But even if this was the case. But If you hate on Mühlegg then please hate on everybody who won something back then.

I have no idea who "Mühlegg" is, but I've heard that line used to describe someone else.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I have no idea who "Mühlegg" is, but I've heard that line used to describe someone else.

Watch the XC skiing events from the Salt Lake Olympics. Even if you know nothing about the sport you'll see where we're coming from. Especially given that this is one of the sports almost as well known for PEDs as cycling. It's some proper Sella in the 2008 Giro hilarity. He even falls over in one of the races, gets up, and skies away from a bunch of other dopers.

 

[Ruby United]

Henry Pellisier Francis Pellisier and Charles Pellisier practically lived on drugs during the 1924 Tour De France.

 

[LouieLouie]

It is well known that the Norwegians and Italians were using EPO at that time.

What a load of crap. Well known? On planet Mars, where you obviously reside?

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

Bump.

Interesting discussion. Mühlegg actually had a former ONCE-prepatore before Salt lake, but not in previous years, so that may explain it. His olympics form was clearly something out of the ordinary. Not only was he on a novel blood booster, he also had a test above the Hb limit at SL.

As for Elofsson. What we do know about his Hb at Lahtis lends credibility (as does the permanent cell damage caused by over training, surely it would've been avoided if he was on GH and test?), considering it was 2001, so blood values meant jack squat as long as you weren't above 17.5 and half the medalists had highly abnormal Hb's.

But why do you think Germans all of a sudden became a Cross Country powerhouse after the 2000s while they where mediocere in the 1990es? Simply because they started doing Epo and blood doping later then the Norwegians, Swedish or Italiens. Same is true for Mühlegg.

Swedes were mediocre in the 90's too and the team's avg Hb was sub 15. In the 90's.

 

[Bavarianrider]

What a load of crap. Well known? On planet Mars, where you obviously reside?

If you suggest they didn't use Epo, well that i really don't know which planet you are living on.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Mauro Gianetti

 

[Caruut]

Mauro Gianetti

This just made me look up Gianetti on Wikipedia, as I was curious about his career. The article's very sparse, so I looked at the edit history to see if there was anything that had been removed. An IP address from Switzerland has repeatedly taken down any references to doping, and written a glowing first person account of his career as a DS in poor English. It mentions over 200 victories, but neither Riccò or Piepoli. Wonder who that might have been.

EDIT: Here's a link to the odd little (auto)biography that has since been removed. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mauro_Gianetti&oldid=472126757

 

[Hawkwood]

How about Bernard Thevenet? The rumour is that he was tested positive in the 1975 Tour, and his form after that year swung up and down as he tried to combat putting on loads of weight during the off season. Some put this down to overdosing on cortisone.

 

[Le breton]

How about Bernard Thevenet? The rumour is that he was tested positive in the 1975 Tour, and his form after that year swung up and down as he tried to combat putting on loads of weight during the off season. Some put this down to overdosing on cortisone.

Thévenet has admitted his doping a long long time ago, but will not say anything about it anymore because of all the flack(? spelling?) he got after speaking up. He also has had health problems as a result of cortisone abuse.

Basically he was heavily pushed into doping by his team, etc.

If some one was reckless it was his entourage, not him.

 

[Gregga]

In the EPO era, I think Gianetti was one of the reckless, domestique come from nowhere as were Riis or Chiappucci before him. These are the most famous but I also think that many riders played with their lives without getting extraordinary results, like Menthéour, Zanette, Hervé and many Spaniards in second rank teams. It seems logical that the reckless are the ones that have nothing to lose as they know they will never win anything as a pro, but there should be reckless racers among the top riders as well, VDB as said before, Musseuw or Virenque.

 

[spalco]

This just made me look up Gianetti on Wikipedia, as I was curious about his career. The article's very sparse, so I looked at the edit history to see if there was anything that had been removed. An IP address from Switzerland has repeatedly taken down any references to doping, and written a glowing first person account of his career as a DS in poor English. It mentions over 200 victories, but neither Riccò or Piepoli. Wonder who that might have been.

EDIT: Here's a link to the odd little (auto)biography that has since been removed. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mauro_Gianetti&oldid=472126757

If that's a troll making fun of Gianetti it's hilarious, if it actually is Gianetti himself it's beyond pathetic.

Nice find either way.