Tour 2012: Route Rumours / Our wishes

[roundabout]

I guess Peyresourde-Peyragudes is 1 climb then.

3km down from the summit of the Peyresourde the altitude is 1360 meters. So I guess the last bit is at about 8% or slightly more.

 

[Cimber]

[I'm going to copy paste this for future use.]

Mountains and TTs go hand-in-hand. It's not about the TTs themselves. If climbers lose time to TTlists on the TTs, they will be forced to attack more and from farther away than if they are not threatened.

This. The TTs will make the mountains even more epic as some of the climbers will have to risk it all early on in the stage

 

[BroDeal]

This. The TTs will make the mountains even more epic as some of the climbers will have to risk it all early on in the stage

Yeah, sure, buddy. Just like the elimination of time bonifications forced the climbers to attack to gain time. Oops, that failed miserably.

 

[Descender]

Yeah, sure, buddy. Just like the elimination of time bonifications forced the climbers to attack to gain time. Oops, that failed miserably.

Apples and pears.

 

[The Hitch]

The route - english commentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBZwt7G0jBI

Thanks man. Thoug like a little kid hungry for another sweet, I ask if other parts of the presentation might be available in the future per chance.

 

[Richeypen]

Thanks for the upload but Christ that was a boring presentation

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

The route - english commentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBZwt7G0jBI

What thee **** @ the exaggerated profile of the Boulogne sur Mer stage. I bet those hills will barely register at all.

Phil to win the stage by 3 seconds or less.

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks man. Thoug like a little kid hungry for another sweet, I ask if other parts of the presentation might be available in the future per chance.

I put the whole thing on cyclingtorrents. Just putting it in my dropbox. Will PM or twitter you a link when its done.

 

[Cimber]

Yeah, sure, buddy. Just like the elimination of time bonifications forced the climbers to attack to gain time. Oops, that failed miserably.

You are comparing apples with oranges.

 

[Mellow Velo]

It's quite amusing to see a medium mountain icon next to the stage to Boulogne-sur-Mer. It's going to be hilly but calling it medium mountains is overkill.

Depends if they decide to give the speed bumps a 4th or a 3rd Cat rating.

Apples and pears.

You are comparing apples with oranges.

There's a lot of old fruits around here.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Thanks for the upload but Christ that was a boring presentation

Be a shame if it were better than the actual race.

 

[roundabout]

Ok, here it's. Part of a Tour medium mountain stage

Courtesy of velochrono.fr

http://www.velochrono.fr/actu/wp-content/uploads/montsboulonnais.png

Mont Lambert is a whopping 1300 meters long.

 

[The Hitch]

Berto is bored as well...

They should have invited Scarponi to play about with Contador like they did in the Giro.

 

[El Pistolero]

Baraque de Fraiture is a pretty cool finish IMO Looking forward to it! Obviously no snow will be there in July haha.

I used to call it Baraque de Friture when I was a kid lol.

 

[Lupetto]

Ok, here it's. Part of a Tour medium mountain stage

Courtesy of velochrono.fr

http://www.velochrono.fr/actu/wp-content/uploads/montsboulonnais.png

Mont Lambert is a whopping 1300 meters long.

And here is the ramp to the finish.

 

[BroDeal]

You are comparing apples with oranges.

Without bonifications there is an actual possibility that a rider might try to sprint ahead before the line to gain a couple of seconds. With a crap parcourse, barring the possibility that 80% of the contenders crash out in the first week leaving plodders with weak teams (like Evans), the chance that a contender will risk all by trying to escape on the early climbs of a stage is about nil. I guess they really are different.

 

[Anonymous]

They should have invited Scarponi to play about with Contador like they did in the Giro.

sent you the link on twitter dm.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Some odd quotes from AC

"It will be a race in which you have to attack, which is not a bad thing. It will all be decided in the mountains.

"This is a course that favors the winner of last year, Cadel Evans," said Contador.

"I like the route, but of course it is not the best for me maybe it is better for Cadel Evans, it is more for the riders that go very strong in the time trials and for me maybe I need to attack before the time trials."

 

[meat puppet]

what's odd about that? let's translate: "since i'll hardly lose any time to cadel in TTs, it's up to me to drop him in the mountains. which is nice."

 

[Parrulo]

what's odd about that? let's translate: "since i'll hardly lose any time to cadel in TTs, it's up to me to drop him in the mountains. which is nice."

pretty much

contador never puts himself up as the top contender he should be pretty happy about this route. enough time trial to keep the only climber that rivals him away and just enough mountains to drop the time trialist who rival him.

still a pretty bad route tho <_<

 

[jens_attacks]

Cette omniprésence du contre-la-montre justement, pourrait-elle entraîner Andy Schleck à revoir ses plans, et se concentrer sur le Giro par exemple ? "Pourquoi pas, je n'exclus rien, on va voir"

En lire d'avantage sur Cyclism'Actu :
http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-2012-bruyneel-andy-sur-le-giro-pourquoi-pas-20083.html#ixzz1bDMGIr98

bruyneel says that andy might go in il giro,they still need to talk about the plans

that would be a wise decision but i can't see it happening.
papi horner leader of radioshack in le tour!haha awesome

 

[Cimber]

Without bonifications there is an actual possibility that a rider might try to sprint ahead before the line to gain a couple of seconds. With a crap parcourse, barring the possibility that 80% of the contenders crash out in the first week leaving plodders with weak teams (like Evans), the chance that a contender will risk all by trying to escape on the early climbs of a stage is about nil. I guess they really are different.

Esp Schleck will have to repeat what he did on stage he won again + more. The Schack will have the strongest team and will also be the team that needs to attack early. That will make it awesome. If it was Cadel og Bertie who had the strongest team I might agree with u, but since its the other way around I can more or less guarentee that we will see serious attacks before the final climb during the Tour.

SBS and BMC wont be strong enough to control a race in a US Postal manner. SKY wont be able to hold it together either since half of the team or more will be build around Cav (poor Wiggins).

You cant really compare that to the removal of the MTF time bonus.

 

[El Pistolero]

Some odd quotes from AC

"It will be a race in which you have to attack, which is not a bad thing. It will all be decided in the mountains.

"This is a course that favors the winner of last year, Cadel Evans," said Contador.

"I like the route, but of course it is not the best for me maybe it is better for Cadel Evans, it is more for the riders that go very strong in the time trials and for me maybe I need to attack before the time trials."

He said the same about Michele Scarponi at the Giro this year. He destroyed him with 7 minutes.

 

[hrotha]

Meh, it's standard pro athlete talk. He isn't really saying anything.

 

[just some guy]

Meh, it's standard pro athlete talk. He isn't really saying anything.

He and Riis have started the mental war though. On 2 fronts Putting pressure on Evans and letting Andy know he has dropped down the order for now.