Tour 2018 stage 20: St P-S-Nivelle - Espelette 31km ITT

[Poursuivant]

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Dunno what that is about Landa. But Kruijswijk has some good ITTs on record:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-suisse/2017/stage-9
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/giro-d-italia/2015/stage-14

And the MTT he almost won (but Foliforov miracle). I think this being at the end of a GT and being hilly should be good for him

I completely forgot about Foliforov, what ever happened to him?

 

[wirral]

Castroviejo fastest time at first split.

 

[Anderis]

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The battle for 5/6 will be interesting as I have no idea how good Steven K is at TT's and Landa can do both good and really bad TTs. So who knows what happens there.

There should be no contest there, Steven Kruijswijk is a better time triallist.

I'll keep an eye on Latour's performance, a top-5 would be huge, a top-10 ok-ish.

I know I'm old, but for the life of me I can't recall Landa ever doing a 'good' time trial. What am I missing?

I think everybody expected him to do poorly in the long ITT during 2016 Giro, but he ended up with one of the better times among GC contenders. Just 7 seconds behind Nibali, ahead of Valverde, Kruijswijk, Fuglsang, Uran etc.

Since then, he also rode a decent last TT in the TdF last year. To finish 15th on such course (plain flat apart from just one short hill) was not bad.

 

[yaco]

Rain has disappeared,roads are drying out so it will favour the late starters - Kruijswilk is a good TTer so will leapfrog Landa.

 

[Carols]

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The battle for 5/6 will be interesting as I have no idea how good Steven K is at TT's and Landa can do both good and really bad TTs. So who knows what happens there.

There should be no contest there, Steven Kruijswijk is a better time triallist.

I'll keep an eye on Latour's performance, a top-5 would be huge, a top-10 ok-ish.

I know I'm old, but for the life of me I can't recall Landa ever doing a 'good' time trial. What am I missing?

I think everybody expected him to do poorly in the long ITT during 2016 Giro, but he ended up with one of the better times among GC contenders. Just 7 seconds behind Nibali, ahead of Valverde, Kruijswijk, Fuglsang, Uran etc.

Since then, he also rode a decent last TT in the TdF last year. To finish 15th on such course (plain flat apart from just one short hill) was not bad.

Thanks, so he has done at least 2 decent TTs. Certainly better showings than my (failing) memory gave him credit for. Crushweak will still crush him .

 

[skippo12]

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The battle for 5/6 will be interesting as I have no idea how good Steven K is at TT's and Landa can do both good and really bad TTs. So who knows what happens there.

There should be no contest there, Steven Kruijswijk is a better time triallist.

I'll keep an eye on Latour's performance, a top-5 would be huge, a top-10 ok-ish.

I know I'm old, but for the life of me I can't recall Landa ever doing a 'good' time trial. What am I missing?

I think everybody expected him to do poorly in the long ITT during 2016 Giro, but he ended up with one of the better times among GC contenders. Just 7 seconds behind Nibali, ahead of Valverde, Kruijswijk, Fuglsang, Uran etc.

Since then, he also rode a decent last TT in the TdF last year. To finish 15th on such course (plain flat apart from just one short hill) was not bad.

Thanks, so he has done at least 2 decent TTs. Certainly better showings than my (failing) memory gave him credit for. Crushweak will still crush him .

2016s Giro time trial is a bad example...heavy rain forced the GC guys to soft pedal. No one was taking any risk.

 

[Carols]

skippo12 wrote:

2016s Giro time trial is a bad example...heavy rain forced the GC guys to soft pedal. No one was taking any risk.

Thanks, so One decent TT .

 

[mosh1992]

Soler has quite the bright future if he keeps time trialling like this

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I have to say relatively small differences for such a hard TT. That makes it more likely nothing will happen in GC

 

[Valv.Piti]

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I have to say relatively small differences for such a hard TT. That makes it more likely nothing will happen in GC

Always difficult to say that. Sometimes someone just smashes it like Kragh did

 

[Lequack]

I guess Kwiat was saving himself in the mountains.

 

[jaylew]

I guess something like:
Roglic
Dumo < 15
Thomas 15-30
Froome 30-40

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

top 10 is full of Sky and Sunweb

 

[Billie]

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top 10 is full of Sky and Sunweb

Them two, Movistar and Sky have a huge advantage over the rest when it comes to their gear (bikes+kits).


This is also why for me timetrialing has become a farce. Has more to do with aerospace engineering than with cycling.

See how Lotto became one of the best teams in TTT by spraying paint over their knees

 

[DNP-Old]

Really good ITT by Dani.

 

[Carols]

I think I'm going to weep....on NBCSN they are saying the rumors are that Sky is going to sign Bernal for 5 years. OMG he's To Good to become anything other than leader/winner, not a Sky slave .

 

[jaylew]

Judging by the gaps going in, it looks like there's a pretty good chance that there isn't a single change in the top 10 placings after this stage.

 

[jaylew]

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I think I'm going to weep....on NBCSN they are saying the rumors are that Sky is going to sign Bernal for 5 years. OMG he's To Good to become anything other than leader/winner, not a Sky slave .

In fairness, he's gotten to lead at almost every race he's done this year. I really don't see much dom duty for him in the future, even at Sky. I'd say he will likely even lead a GT next year.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

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I think I'm going to weep....on NBCSN they are saying the rumors are that Sky is going to sign Bernal for 5 years. OMG he's To Good to become anything other than leader/winner, not a Sky slave .

Bernal would be their leader. He's a generational talent. I doubt they're stupid enough to waste his talent towing Geraint around during the next 5 years.

 

[Lequack]

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I think I'm going to weep....on NBCSN they are saying the rumors are that Sky is going to sign Bernal for 5 years. OMG he's To Good to become anything other than leader/winner, not a Sky slave .

Bernal would be their leader. He's a generational talent. I doubt they're stupid enough to waste his talent towing Geraint around during the next 5 years.

But how will they make him more British.

 

[MatParker117]

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I think I'm going to weep....on NBCSN they are saying the rumors are that Sky is going to sign Bernal for 5 years. OMG he's To Good to become anything other than leader/winner, not a Sky slave .

He has six wins this year.

 

[DNP-Old]

Martin super combatif.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Martin super combatif.

How is that not Alaphilippe or Craddock?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Judging by the gaps going in, it looks like there's a pretty good chance that there isn't a single change in the top 10 placings after this stage.

Yes, barring falls or mechanicals I think this is pretty much it.

 

[Billie]

Dan Martin supercombative because of the most obvious chasse patate ever loool