Tour de France 2011 STAGE 20 - Grenoble 42.5 km ITT

[Waterloo Sunrise]

It fits when you consider a 28th for Westra was a pretty bad result.

It fits that, but it says the opposite of the 3 weeks hard work narrative. And there is no way to justify losing time to westra in the middle sector which sounds good for Fabian.

 

[leon993]

Tv2 dk says it has started raining on course

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Can we be sure that Cancellara won't win now?

It could rain.


EDIT - lol.

 

[SarahDane]

Yup, already does.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Kreuziger at 1.16, not good

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Can we be sure that Cancellara won't win now?

Because of rain? Cancellara is past midpoint and most critical corners.

Moreover; the rain could continue, it could be more headwinds later, like last year.

 

[hrotha]

It fits that, but it says the opposite of the 3 weeks hard work narrative. And there is no way to justify losing time to westra in the middle sector which sounds good for Fabian.

Not necessarily. The three weeks of racing is a malus. Actually having a good day and being in better shape is a bonus. How significant each one is, we cannot know.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Maybe Westra hasn't had to ride for 3 weeks? Maybe?



Sorry, couldn't resist.

Game on for Tony and Edvald, amongst others.

Westra was already on the attack on the 1st flat stage He has been in plenty escape attempts and in has struggled for almost 2 weeks with his right knee which was injured.

So I would not say he hasn't had to ride for 3 weeks...

 

[sulgpallur]

Westra 51sec behind cancellara on 3rd check so has lost big time

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Not necessarily. The three weeks of racing is a malus. Actually having a good day and being in better shape is a bonus. How significant each one is, we cannot know.

Sure, but if the effect is that variable it seems like a pretty crap excuse for going 80 seconds slower over a 20 minute effort. That's a 60Watt gap to explain.

 

[Square-pedaller]

Canc 51'' up on Westra at 3rd intermediate

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Cance now +50 seconds faster

But he's probably only just going under 57 minutes.
I expect the winning time to be around 56.00 - 56.30

 

[spalco]

Can we be sure that Cancellara won't win now?

Oh please, anybody who bets against Cancellara in any TT is a fool.

Maybe he doesn't win, but I'll eat my keyboard if he isn't in the top5 at least.

 

[AussieGoddess]

Can we be sure that Cancellara won't win now?

nope - if its raining now, he probably will win

3rd time check he is 51 seconds ahead of Westra

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Westra was already on the attack on the 1st flat stage He has been in plenty escape attempts and in has struggled for almost 2 weeks with his right knee which was injured.

So I would not say he hasn't had to ride for 3 weeks...

Does the fact I apologised not make it clear I was sarcastically taking the Mick out of the excuses made for Canc vs Tony that it has been hard 3 weeks so the times are not comparable.

Westra has also had a hard 3 weeks and has gone quicker. Obviously his Dauphine time was below par, but I still think Cancs time to the 2nd check point is weak, regardless of context.

 

[SarahDane]

Oh please, anybody who bets against Cancellara in any TT is a fool.

Maybe he doesn't win, but I'll eat my keyboard if he isn't in the top5 at least.

But if he's second, that's enough for me to make money out of him. Have 100 danish crowns I have to use on some sporting bet.

 

[spalco]

Btw. interesting comment in the letour liveticker, that the Schlecks are sitting in the car following Cancellara - kind of a strange preparation for such an important day, no? Shouldn't Andy be getting a massage or something?

 

[spalco]

But if he's second, that's enough for me to make money out of him. Have 100 danish crowns I have to use on some sporting bet.

Oh, sorry, I didn't mean any offense.

Anyway, don't sell the fur until you've shot the bear or however that saying goes in English.

 

[Bavarianrider]

The position of the intermidate timesplits is quiet strange and silly

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

57:15


If you've got a good weather forecast saying the rain stops, it's time to Lay him on betfair.

 

[sulgpallur]

Btw. interesting comment in the letour liveticker, that the Schlecks are sitting in the car following Cancellara - kind of a strange preparation for such an important day, no? Shouldn't Andy be getting a massage or something?

probably will learn from cancellara, places where to push and stuff

 

[Square-pedaller]

Canc 57'' faster than Westra overall

 

[wirral]

Powered through the final third as ever. Fabian shows he's not really on an off day.

 

[Cycloid]

Cancellara in at 57:15! Beat Westra by 57secs.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

57:16

That can never be the winning time. Sorry for cance.
It will be waiting for Martin now

Not even close to 56:00-56:30 for Cance, suprising