Tour de France 2015 Stage 15: Mende-Valence 183km

[Punkan]

Farrar already dropped so Kristoff with a good chance today.

 

[argyllflyer]

Re: Re:

Was it not dimwit Sean Yates that chucked the bottle?

Tinkoff-Saxo employed Sean Yates as a mechanic?

If he was peed enough at seeing a moto almost run over his rider to get out...?

 

[Punkan]

Re: Re:

Was it not dimwit Sean Yates that chucked the bottle?

Tinkoff-Saxo employed Sean Yates as a mechanic?

Lunatic Tinkov calling the shots so who knows.

 

[sir fly]

Coquard for the victory.

 

[Gigs_98]

I still don't get why sagan went into the break. Only for some points in the intermediate sprint? Seriously today would have been the best possibility for him in the whole tour but he sacrifices the chance for the win for some points for the green jersey. Am I the only one who finds that stupid?

 

[Guybrush]

Re:

Farrar already dropped so Kristoff with a good chance today.

lol!!!!

 

[Eyeballs Out]

The finish has a long right hand curve into the main finishing straight which is just a few hundred metres and light tailwind. Whichever team gets into that curve first probably wins

 

[glassmoon]

Just catching up with today's stage. How the hell wasn't Greipel dropped on that 2nd cat climb?

 

[Z3lvet]

I still don't get why sagan went into the break. Only for some points in the intermediate sprint? Seriously today would have been the best possibility for him in the whole tour but he sacrifices the chance for the win for some points for the green jersey. Am I the only one who finds that stupid?

He was going to finish 2nd anyway.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

I still don't get why sagan went into the break. Only for some points in the intermediate sprint? Seriously today would have been the best possibility for him in the whole tour but he sacrifices the chance for the win for some points for the green jersey. Am I the only one who finds that stupid?

No. Actually I am pretty much pissed again about Olga & his slaves doing an idiotic job...

 

[TMP402]

Re:

Just catching up with today's stage. How the hell wasn't Greipel dropped on that 2nd cat climb?

He climbs better than people think. At MSR he dropped Nibali on the poggio.

 

[SeriousSam]

Gulag certainly more likely than a stage win for Peter

 

[Dutchsmurf]

I still don't get why sagan went into the break. Only for some points in the intermediate sprint? Seriously today would have been the best possibility for him in the whole tour but he sacrifices the chance for the win for some points for the green jersey. Am I the only one who finds that stupid?

Since Greipel didn't even get dropped, how is today Sagan's best chance to win a stage?

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Sky were the anti-tacticans in the past years. But what AST & Saxo did in the Giro and to some extend in this TdF tops that easily... Actually Sky now looks like masters in comparison.

 

[glassmoon]

Re: Re:

Just catching up with today's stage. How the hell wasn't Greipel dropped on that 2nd cat climb?

He climbs better than people think. At MSR he dropped Nibali on the poggio.

That was different story. He usually is dropped pretty easy at this TdF.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

I still don't get why sagan went into the break. Only for some points in the intermediate sprint? Seriously today would have been the best possibility for him in the whole tour but he sacrifices the chance for the win for some points for the green jersey. Am I the only one who finds that stupid?

I was thinking the same. Anyway I think they did it because Tinkoff-Saxo wanted to save some energy / spare some of their troops.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

Sky were the anti-tacticans in the past years. But what AST & Saxo did in the Giro and to some extend in this TdF tops that easily... Actually Sky now looks like masters in comparison.

What did Tinkoff do wrong in the Giro, tactically?

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

Sky were the anti-tacticans in the past years. But what AST & Saxo did in the Giro and to some extend in this TdF tops that easily... Actually Sky now looks like masters in comparison.

What did Tinkoff do wrong in the Giro, tactically?

Rode hard early on and used up domestiques too early, no?

 

[DFA123]

Re:

Sky were the anti-tacticans in the past years. But what AST & Saxo did in the Giro and to some extend in this TdF tops that easily... Actually Sky now looks like masters in comparison.

Tinkoff backed the wrong horse from the start of the TdF. With the full team in support of Sagan, they may have won three or four stages now and Contador would still probably be top 5 overall.

 

[tomorrow]

I still don't get why sagan went into the break. Only for some points in the intermediate sprint? Seriously today would have been the best possibility for him in the whole tour but he sacrifices the chance for the win for some points for the green jersey. Am I the only one who finds that stupid?

Since Greipel didn't even get dropped, how is today Sagan's best chance to win a stage?

I actually don't think that being in the break today has some impact on today's sagan's chances. He suffered probably less then kristoff and greipel throughout the stage. And the sprint will be very short because of the roundabout, so even better for him, team support won't matter that much.

Nevertheless, sagan will obviously come 2nd, and it would have been the same if the break made it.

 

[TMP402]

I still don't get why sagan went into the break. Only for some points in the intermediate sprint? Seriously today would have been the best possibility for him in the whole tour but he sacrifices the chance for the win for some points for the green jersey. Am I the only one who finds that stupid?

I was thinking the same. Anyway I think they did it because Tinkoff-Saxo wanted to save some energy / spare some of their troops.

Exept TS pulled on the climb anyway

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Sky were the anti-tacticans in the past years. But what AST & Saxo did in the Giro and to some extend in this TdF tops that easily... Actually Sky now looks like masters in comparison.

Tinkoff backed the wrong horse from the start of the TdF. With the full team in support of Sagan, they may have won three or four stages now and Contador would still probably be top 5 overall.

Which stages would Sagan have won if the team rode for him instead of Contador?

 

[Linkinitouille]

That stage is even worse that I could have expected.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Sky were the anti-tacticans in the past years. But what AST & Saxo did in the Giro and to some extend in this TdF tops that easily... Actually Sky now looks like masters in comparison.

What did Tinkoff do wrong in the Giro, tactically?

Rode hard early on and used up domestiques too early, no?

Nope.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

I still don't get why sagan went into the break. Only for some points in the intermediate sprint? Seriously today would have been the best possibility for him in the whole tour but he sacrifices the chance for the win for some points for the green jersey. Am I the only one who finds that stupid?

I was thinking the same. Anyway I think they did it because Tinkoff-Saxo wanted to save some energy / spare some of their troops.

Exept TS pulled on the climb anyway

Shortly. Didn't use up much power by that compared to setting the pace all day