Tour de France 2017 Stage 12: Pau > Peyragudes 214.5km

[Gloin22]

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Froome is a low gear high cadence climber. That works on most climbs at the tour but not the short punchy ones where you need a bigger gear.

No way. When he's on form he destroys those kind of finishes - like Pena Cabarga, Cumbre de Sol etc...

He's definitely weak this year.

To a lesser extant than Berto, Froome isn't exactly a spring chicken either. He's right on the edge of that age where riders start to decline (without clinic prolonging). Same age as Indurain when he collapsed, and a year older than Hinault when he retires. Year older than Roche, Delgado, and Fignon in 1991.

He likely is still the man to beat, but he may no longer have that top gear.

Well Froome ''peaked'' considerably later than most, that's gonna be a factor.

But then again, some people said Sky training methods can't be sustained for more than few years, so maybe there's that. But he did sign 3 year extension so they still believe in him

 

[HelloDolly]

I dont think SKY were bluffing...just Froome didnt know how he'd react in the finale ...there is a difference

 

[Durden93]

Froome probably could have lost minutes if this stage had been raced properly. But no let's wait for the last 500m instead. If froome ends up winning the tour by a few seconds it would be hilarious

Indeed. Everyone thought he was going for an attack when Sky made high tempo but it appears that the tempo was as high as Froome was comfortable with the entire time.

Not really worth it though. If you attack on the penultimate climb you have to hold it on the descent and make sure you don't crack in the final kms. Attacking a leader with 3 doms around is rarely a good idea.

 

[Poursuivant]

How will Astana control tomorrow?

 

[Juan Pelota]

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Why did Landa not wait for Froome ?

Richie Porte is sobbing some where

Because Landa.

He waits for no one.

He was going for the stage win. He could have won it too if he hadn't had to set pace up the whole climb. Also, at that gradient, with such slow speeds drafting doesn't help at all.

 

[bigcog]

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Froome pulling a Quintana in his double attempt!

This.

If somebody tries the double attempt it should be by accident not by planning because they will screw it up for sure!

lolz

 

[JosephK]

Romain! Wow!!!

Indeed! Chapeau to Romain!

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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How will Astana control tomorrow?

good question

 

[Gloin22]

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How will Astana control tomorrow?

Let Sky do it

 

[ontheroad]

Froome can't be critical of Landa dropping him, after all he dropped Wiggins in 2012.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Era of Froome ended. Next year Era Dumoulin starts. This year everyone can win

 

[Highlander]

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Didn't expect that. Froome seemed to be looking down at his gears a lot as well whether in frustration, who knows.

Froome is always looking down. It is amazing that he can ride in a straight line most of the time.

 

[Irondan]

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Froome can't be critical of Landa dropping him, after all he dropped Wiggins in 2012.

Great point!

 

[wheresmybrakes]

Aru's team pretty much knackered, do you think he has it in him to defend the yellow jersey? Now sky don't really have to control the race, they along with Bardet etc can save a bit of energy and bomb Astana. But I can see Aru still attacking to try and gain more time before the TT. Gonna be closer than expected.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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Froome can't be critical of Landa dropping him, after all he dropped Wiggins in 2012.

egos don't work that way.

 

[Durden93]

With tomorrow being so short I really hope AG2r goes hard on the first climbs to set up Bardet.

 

[aarononymous]

SKY, USPS revisited. Nice sprint by ARU. I cannot believe Landa did not outsprint ARU. SKY, ET

Landa? Outsprint? Did you watch the Giro?

:lol:

 

[HelloDolly]

But Aru only needs ot stay with Bardet, Froome & Uran.....forget everyone else ...let the others do it ...

 

[red zone]

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Froome busted , lol , and Landa said **** you and left him for dead .

Aru in yellow !!!!!

Didn't matter what Landa did, finish was so slow there are no gains from drafting.

Exactly. May as well let Landa get as much time as possible to play the 1-2 if need be.

the 1-2 my ass , Froome doesn't give damn about anyone but himself and the rest of the GC contenders know this , not to mention Sky doesn't know anything other that UK Postal train .

Landa's riding for himself , he should have stayed with his cracked leader and at least give him a wheel to follow to try to limit the loses by a second or two .

 

[tretiak]

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Team Sky have big problem how to set the pace correct. Radio communication problem?

Wot? they set it perfectly, clearly Froome didnt feel great and no one attacked until the end

pretty good result, no?

Breaking a tradition not loosing yellow since you got it?
A big blow for Froome and the team. Most of cycling world is happy as hell.

A better pace I think nobody would have dared to attack anayway because they thought Froome was at his best. Froome would have been able to respond better it that case.

 

[Gloin22]

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Team Sky have big problem how to set the pace correct. Radio communication problem?

Wot? they set it perfectly, clearly Froome didnt feel great and no one attacked until the end

pretty good result, no?

Breaking a tradition not loosing yellow since you got it?
A big blow for Froome and the team. Most of cycling world is happy as hell.

A better pace I think nobody would have dared to attack anayway because they thought Froome was at his best. Froome would have been able to respond better it that case.

But that was a steep ramp, everyone was gonna go full out. There was no way to avoid it

 

[46&twoWheels]

lol Landa dropping captains since he was born

Aruuuu!!

 

[Escarabajo]

Bardet is the biggest danger. I just think that Aru lacks the kilometers this year and he will falter a bit in the third week.

But if he wins I'll be OK with that for a change!

 

[laurensde+]

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How will Astana control tomorrow?

good question

Vino will make Landa an offer he can't refuse.

 

[SeriousSam]

Theory that Dan Martin wins if largish group of climbers sans Valverde together close to finish: Disconfirmed

What really matters is the form