Tour de France 2017 Stage 12: Pau > Peyragudes 214.5km

[DFA123]

Froome probably could have lost minutes if this stage had been raced properly. But no let's wait for the last 500m instead. If froome ends up winning the tour by a few seconds it would be hilarious

This!

It's just not true on this stage. The other teams aren't strong enough, and there's too much benefit to drafting on the Peyresourde. Froome's only vulnerable when the gradients are so high that his team can't help him.

That horrendous next stage could now be interesting though if Froome cracks hard on the steep last 2km.

 

[ice&fire]

SKY, USPS revisited. Nice sprint by ARU. I cannot believe Landa did not outsprint ARU. SKY, ET

Landa? Outsprint? Did you watch the Giro?

 

[bigcog]

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Froome busted , lol , and Landa said **** you and left him for dead .

Aru in yellow !!!!!

There is not much point Landa pacing Froome on that sort of finish.

 

[Ruby United]

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Froome busted , lol , and Landa said **** you and left him for dead .

Aru in yellow !!!!!

Didn't matter what Landa did, finish was so slow there are no gains from drafting.

Exactly. May as well let Landa get as much time as possible to play the 1-2 if need be.

 

[Gloin22]

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Uran could conceivably win the Tour if he can ride an ITT like he's done in the Giro a few years ago..

But he can't

 

[Forever The Best]

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Maybe Froome is forcing his team to pace set like this because he isn't feeling great. Maybe.

Called it

Great call. I also thought this when no one was getting dropped on the final kms of Peyresourde.

 

[Irondan]

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Uran could conceivably win the Tour if he can ride an ITT like he's done in the Giro a few years ago..

But he can't

We can dream?

 

[sir fly]

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Maybe Froome is forcing his team to pace set like this because he isn't feeling great. Maybe.

Called it

This!!

And it was right on time.
Imagine the gaps if someone has had stepped up at that point.
Can't believe no one payed attention.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Not good to see everyone waiting for the final 300m... but super happy Bardet won and Aru got yellow

 

[HelloDolly]

Why did Landa not wait for Froome ?

Richie Porte is sobbing some where

 

[ontheroad]

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Froome is a low gear high cadence climber. That works on most climbs at the tour but not the short punchy ones where you need a bigger gear.

No way. When he's on form he destroys those kind of finishes - like Pena Cabarga, Cumbre de Sol etc...

He's definitely weak this year.

Yes, defintely looks weaker this year, 21 seconds in 300m is a huge time loss. Good for the race.

 

[luckyboy]

Great bluff by Sky.

Have to wonder how much is down to form and how much is just struggling with the gradient? Like, can they do this on all the other summit finishes? Uh, I mean the one other summit finish remaining

Hopefully racing all day tomorrow

 

[masking_agent]

let's see what the Astana train will look like in the days to come.

 

[Lupi33x]

I dont think Froome blew up there. He just didnt have the horsepower.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Uran could conceivably win the Tour if he can ride an ITT like he's done in the Giro a few years ago..

But he can't

We can dream?

He ahs a good a chance of any int he top 4 ....

 

[No_Balls]

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Why did Landa not wait for Froome ?

Richie Porte is sobbing some where

Because Landa.

He waits for no one.

 

[perico]

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Froome is a low gear high cadence climber. That works on most climbs at the tour but not the short punchy ones where you need a bigger gear.

No way. When he's on form he destroys those kind of finishes - like Pena Cabarga, Cumbre de Sol etc...

He's definitely weak this year.

To a lesser extant than Berto, Froome isn't exactly a spring chicken either. He's right on the edge of that age where riders start to decline (without clinic prolonging). Same age as Indurain when he collapsed, and a year older than Hinault when he retires. Year older than Roche, Delgado, and Fignon in 1991.

He likely is still the man to beat, but he may no longer have that top gear.

 

[Savant12]

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let's see what the Astana train will look like in the days to come.

Less train and more slow coach.

 

[RattaKuningas]

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let's see what the Astana train will look like in the days to come.

If they only had the team they had last year. Shame.

 

[cocteau_ireland]

4 southern hemisphere riders in top 10

 

[movingtarget]

Didn't expect that. Froome seemed to be looking down at his gears a lot as well whether in frustration, who knows.

 

[fowlyetti]

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Why did Landa not wait for Froome ?

Richie Porte is sobbing some where

with 300 meters to go, at that gradient. What would be the point?

 

[Finn84]

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Bardet must go nuclear on a descent at some point now. Got a real chance if he's in this form and can find some time or put others in trouble.

Super from Uran again too

Tomorrow is a downhill chance for Bardet but Serre Chevalier might be even better.

 

[Escarabajo]

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Froome pulling a Quintana in his double attempt!

This.

If somebody tries the double attempt it should be by accident not by planning because they will screw it up for sure!

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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4 southern hemisphere riders in top 10

Nice !