Dekker_Tifosi said:Even with Sagan clipping out of his pedal he still won. Really strong ride. Looks like he'll win green again..
I think that was the last time. Was a bit of an easier finish than this one though IIRC, or at least the GC contenders didn't light it up from 1km out. I remember the previous year in the Vuelta they had another great head to head where Valverde just took it - somewhere in Andalucia I think.KGB said:When that happend last time?Last year tdf when Sagan won it and took yellow or was another race after that?DFA123 said:Absolutely, of course it's his own fault he's not here. But, the Valverde v Sagan battle on a shallowish hill is one of the most entertaining in cycling for me. You usually on get it once or twice a season, and we've been denied it here. :sad:infeXio said:Irondan said:Without a doubt.DFA123 said:Considering how close Martin got, you've got to think Valverde would have won this by 50m.
This was Valverde's stage to lose.
All the hypotheticals... Would've probably been raced differently if he was there
Irondan said:These are the stages Valverde wins all the time, it doesn't matter if you race it differently he still wins these finishes.infeXio said:Irondan said:Without a doubt.DFA123 said:Considering how close Martin got, you've got to think Valverde would have won this by 50m.
This was Valverde's stage to lose.
All the hypotheticals... Would've probably been raced differently if he was there
LaFlorecita said:Great win by Sagan
when's he ever been good in a false flat sprint? We should be glad he didn't lose timeLexman said:Bertie was seconds behind Porte and drifted all back...
Kittel is the biggest threat for green here I think. He could win 6 or 7 stages and then no amount of consistent placings would be enough to deny him.loge1884 said:Dekker_Tifosi said:Even with Sagan clipping out of his pedal he still won. Really strong ride. Looks like he'll win green again..
Bling seems to be a serious contender though ... wonder how long ....
I thought so! On a finish not really suited to himMartinGT said:Bertie looked good.
DFA123 said:Kittel is the biggest threat for green here I think. He could win 6 or 7 stages and then no amount of consistent placings would be enough to deny him.loge1884 said:Dekker_Tifosi said:Even with Sagan clipping out of his pedal he still won. Really strong ride. Looks like he'll win green again..
Bling seems to be a serious contender though ... wonder how long ....
Roglic isn't going for GC. None of the LottoNL guys are. They all are going for stage wins.armchairclimber said:Roglic a big loser today.
It will be hard this year. He only has another two stages which really suit him (14 and 15) and there are many (eight) stages which will probably end up in an in a bunch sprint; with the points classification change, winning matters much more than a top five place, or even a podium. He's going to have to win a full bunch sprint, or hope that Kittel and Demare both mess up repeatedly.Dekker_Tifosi said:Even with Sagan clipping out of his pedal he still won. Really strong ride. Looks like he'll win green again..
I guess some sponsor promotion thing.RedheadDane said:Why the skiing goggles, Peter? :lol:
Netserk's next signature.markene2 said:"I pulled my foot out from the clit"
the hill was raced much harder and Berto had magic legs that yearRuby United said:LaFlorecita said:Great win by Sagan
when's he ever been good in a false flat sprint? We should be glad he didn't lose timeLexman said:Bertie was seconds behind Porte and drifted all back...
Of the top of my head, I clearly remember watching this stage: 2011 Tour de France Stage 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5jm_YUCj6k
He came 2nd, ahead of Hushovd and Gilbert
Final climb that day:
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Final climb today:
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Not much difference.
That climb was slightly steeper overall, but the last few hundred metres were slightly less steep.
armchairclimber said:Roglic a big loser today.
LOL. I noticed the same thing.RedheadDane said:Why the skiing goggles, Peter? :lol:
Dekker_Tifosi said:Roglic isn't going for GC. None of the LottoNL guys are. They all are going for stage wins.armchairclimber said:Roglic a big loser today.
So I'm not sure I understand? He's not the type to win this stage anyway