Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 km

[yaco]

What I have taken out of the first 9 stages is Aru can attack the Sky train and stay away. Aur stays in form and he is a serious threat to Froome.

 

[Gloin22]

Re: Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 k

If Aru crashed, had to wait, lost time, then never made contact, and then Froome DQ'd, the race would be absolutely into tatters. It already is with Sagan's unfair DQ, the crashes and other things going on. Thankfully Aru didn't crash, though if Froome did that on purpose, it's pretty low. Lower than Aru attacking when Froome had a puncture.

Remember when Contador tried to attack on the col jallabert descent but went off the road in 2013 and Froome had a hissy fit afterwards about how this was illegitimate and no one is allowed to crash in front of him. Walsh backed Froome, but the rest of the cycling world didn't - saying you are allowed to attack in cycling.

Anyway, that incident suggests Froome is enough of a hot head to do something like this.

Well, imagine the conversation between Froome and Aru after the mechanical and attack.
What do you think Aru could have responded to Froome if he's been willing to attack at such a moment?
Something worth of disciplinary measure, probably.

Froome accidentally unclipped that's the reason for his movement but whatever.

And, as usually the case is, it was nothing ill intended.

We don't know if he unclipped, one poster saying it does not make it a fact.

Exactly the same way Benotti tried to spread that Froome headbutted Aru..

 

[Benotti69]

That’s it guys. Official #TDF2017 starts with 125 riders Tuesday but we know how organizations know the rules

 

[Red Rick]

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From CN live stream:
"Contador, it transpires, received a heavy blow to the knee in the same crash that saw Thomas abandon. The Spaniard also hit the deck when Nairo Quintana bumped into him on the Grand Colombier. In the end, he fell away on the Mont du Chat and lost 4:19."

The second Contador was gapped I knew for 100% we'd hear this. Its like Cadel Evans used to be.

One of those things that are impossible to prove or disprove. We're all gonna believe what we want to believe.

But usually its the day after a crash you struggle more no?

Like Samu broke his wrist on Tourmalet but still beat Menchov. The day after he struggled.

Don't really know if that's a given or not. May also depend on the kind of injury. Also think Contador broke mentally. Another year gone.

 

[Hayabusa]

Re: Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 k

juraj as well, and 5 other riders with demare

Juraj stayed with Demare not to allow him a sticky bottles.
Good job Juraj

Plot twist, only Sagan gets kicked out.

 

[Screecher]

Re: Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 k

I really hope they throw all the riders outside the time limit out of the race. They forced the rules on Sagan so i don´t see a reason why they wouldn´t do so here.

 

[Kafviar]

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Here is an alternative angle of the Froome/Aru thing. Some people saying he unclipped but it seems unclear?

Looks as if he's simply cutting Aru off.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 k

We don't know if he unclipped, one poster saying it does not make it a fact.

Exactly the same way Benotti tried to spread that Froome headbutted Aru..

I deny this.

I said their were ALLEGATIONS on twitter.

Stop trolling.

 

[Poursuivant]

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Why aren't they waiting? Scummy move from Froome et al

So why is Froome not neutralizing this descent so Dan Martin can get back?

So why is Froome not waiting for Dan Martin????????????????

Froome doesn't wait for martin... shameful

What the **** is wrong with you lot?

Embarrassing quotes reading through this after a stage. Someone even called karma on Porte. Absolute nuggets.

 

[BetOrLose]

People in here are a joke, calling that a headbutt is a joke, stop all your hate against Froome !!!

 

[FjPavels]

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That’s it guys. Official #TDF2017 starts with 125 riders Tuesday but we know how organizations know the rules

Commentators on norwegian television talking about only 6 guys comming in after the time limit (Trentin, Sagan, Demare + 3 more FDJ riders). I have no idea if they are correct or not.

 

[sir fly]

Re: Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 k

We don't know if he unclipped, one poster saying it does not make it a fact.

Exactly the same way Benotti tried to spread that Froome headbutted Aru..

You're right.
Let's wait for some statements, if it becomes a topic.

 

[miguelindurain111]

Very happy for Uran and gutted for Porte. Froome showing who's the boss. Contador as bad as expected. Great show anyway.

 

[DFA123]

Re: Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 k

I really hope they throw all the riders outside the time limit out of the race. They forced the rules on Sagan so i don´t see a reason why they wouldn´t do so here.

It would be a nice precedent. These guys get an advantage outside the rules compared with the ones who battled hard to stay in the limit. Isn't there some caveat in the rules though that the organisers can use their discretion if there is a big group?

 

[Benotti69]

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That’s it guys. Official #TDF2017 starts with 125 riders Tuesday but we know how organizations know the rules

Commentators on norwegian television talking about only 6 guys comming in after the time limit (Trentin, Sagan, Demare + 3 more FDJ riders). I have no idea if they are correct or not.

Sorry if i got it wrong.

Seems grupetto got in 1 min before cut off.

 

[Screecher]

Re: Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 k

I really hope they throw all the riders outside the time limit out of the race. They forced the rules on Sagan so i don´t see a reason why they wouldn´t do so here.

It would be a nice precedent. These guys get an advantage outside the rules compared with the ones who battled hard to stay in the limit. Isn't there some caveat in the rules though that the organisers can use their discretion if there is a big group?

Organisers are allowed to make exceptions if more than 20% of the field would be outside the time limit. As far as i know.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

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That’s it guys. Official #TDF2017 starts with 125 riders Tuesday but we know how organizations know the rules

Commentators on norwegian television talking about only 6 guys comming in after the time limit (Trentin, Sagan, Demare + 3 more FDJ riders). I have no idea if they are correct or not.

Sorry if i got it wrong.

Seems grupetto got in 1 min before cut off.

No reason not to kick them out then.

edit: I mean those 6 riders.

 

[Benotti69]

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That’s it guys. Official #TDF2017 starts with 125 riders Tuesday but we know how organizations know the rules

Commentators on norwegian television talking about only 6 guys comming in after the time limit (Trentin, Sagan, Demare + 3 more FDJ riders). I have no idea if they are correct or not.

Sorry if i got it wrong.

Seems grupetto got in 1 min before cut off.

No reason not to kick them out then.

:lol:

 

[Benotti69]

Le Tour website only listing, at present, 123 finishers for the stage.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Re: Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 k

I really hope they throw all the riders outside the time limit out of the race. They forced the rules on Sagan so i don´t see a reason why they wouldn´t do so here.

It would be a nice precedent. These guys get an advantage outside the rules compared with the ones who battled hard to stay in the limit. Isn't there some caveat in the rules though that the organisers can use their discretion if there is a big group?

Yup, and invariably they do, to the point where the péloton feels that as long as they get enough of them there they don't have to try because the organizers won't dare remove them, as evidenced by the Formigal stage last year where the riders soft-pedalled all day at a laughably slow speed and some riders (I forget who, main culprit was an American iirc but not sure and don't want to blame the wrong rider) saying that we fans should be grateful the riders managed to organize something for themselves to make sure they weren't kicked out of the race.

 

[FjPavels]

Renshaw outside the time limit as well (according to commentators on norwegian tv).

 

[Lance Armstrong]

181 riders in now.

 

[silvergrenade]

It's official. The French champion, off the back from KM0, has failed to finish within the time cut. His FDJ teammates Delage, Guarnieri, and Konovalovas, who accompanied him over the climbs, are also out. A blg blow for the French team, whose race now depends on Pinot.
We're also hearing that Juraj Sagan, Mark Renshaw, and Matteo Trentin also missed the time cut.

From CN

 

[Gloin22]

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It's official. The French champion, off the back from KM0, has failed to finish within the time cut. His FDJ teammates Delage, Guarnieri, and Konovalovas, who accompanied him over the climbs, are also out. A blg blow for the French team, whose race now depends on Pinot.

Stage win is probably enough for FDJ to call it a success, or at least meeting objective.

 

[SKSemtex]

Re: Tour de France 2017 stage 9: Nantua > Chambéry - 181,5 k

It is a good time to put some serious money om Matthews vs Kittel. I do not think that all sprint stages end up with bunch sprint. Time for breaaways.