Tour de France 2020 | Stage 15 (Lyon - Grand Colombier, 174.5 km)

[wheresmybrakes]

That seemed a nasty bump on the head. That seemed more reckless than Sagans nudge in the sprint the other day.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Who finishes ahead of whom... Landa or Porte?
They have been so similar on almost every stage so far.

They are one and the same.

Panda

 

[RedheadDane]

Higuita crashed again...

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Don't think DropBob is only to blame for that crash. Higuita did not look at the road in front of him, and DropBob could not know this.

 

[Salvarani]

Don't think DropBob is only to blame for that crash. Higuita did not look at the road in front of him, and DropBob could not know this.

I think it is 90% Bob, and maybe being lenient, Higuita 10 %.

He literally threw himself to the right. Recklessly. It wasnt a small swerve.

 

[TomLPC]

Higuita crashed again on the roundabout. Maybe they should be double checking for that concussion because it looked like he smacked his head.

 

[Breezy1985]

Don't think DropBob is only to blame for that crash. Higuita did not look at the road in front of him, and DropBob could not know this.

2 guys who were not looking where they were going. Even amateurs on a commute should know better

 

[BlueRoads]

Come on, it was really stupid by Jungels, but not reckless.

 

[Breezy1985]

Bennett trying to break

 

[RedheadDane]

A wild Viviani spotted.

 

[Walkman]

Come on, it was really stupid by Jungels, but not reckless.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I have no ill will against Jungels but what he did should be punishable. He didn't even stop to check on Higuita.

 

[Salvarani]

Come on, it was really stupid by Jungels, but not reckless.

It was a dangerous move, without thinking about the risks. Thats why Im saying reckless.

He had no idea what was behind. If you gonna do that move, you have to be more aware. Or dont do the move, in that way, at all.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

I think it is 90% Bob, and maybe being lenient, Higuita 10 %.

He literally threw himself to the right. Recklessly. It wasnt a small swerve.

There is no way of quantifying this. I am just saying that it would have been something else, if Higuita had kept attention on the road in front of him. Then it probably would not have happened in the first place.

 

[Breezy1985]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I have no ill will against Jungels but what he did should be punishable. He didn't even stop to check on Higuita.

Does any rider ever stop to check

 

[Red Rick]

Come on, it was really stupid by Jungels, but not reckless.

I don't see how that's possible

 

[Salvarani]

There is no way of quantifying this. I am just saying that it would have been something else, if Higuita had kept attention on the road in front of him. Then it probably would not have happened in the first place.

I think it would have happened either way because of the way Bob moved.

 

[BlueRoads]

Higuita crashed again?!

 

[Walkman]

2 guys who were not looking where they were going. Even amateurs on a commute should know better

Uhm, If I am on someones wheel I should definitely be able to catch a glance about the action behind without worrying about being swept off my bike due to an idiot sweeping across the road. This was on Jungels and it was reckless.

 

[Flamin]

There is no way of quantifying this. I am just saying that it would have been something else, if Higuita had kept attention on the road in front of him. Then it probably would not have happened in the first place.

Van Aert shouldn't have sprinted the other day, then Sagan wouldn't have barged him.

This is basically what you're saying.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

I think it would have happened either way because of the way Bob moved.

Do we at least agree that the odds of it happening would have been smaller if Higuita had paid attention to the road in front of him? Because if we agree about this then you cannot say that this was only DropBobs fault - 90/10 whatever way you want to quantify the blame.

 

[Walkman]

Does any rider ever stop to check

I don't expect Sagan to hit the brakes mid sprint to check on Cav, but if you (and you alone) causes someone to crash in a non-critical period of the race, the only decent thing would be to stop and check on the person.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Van Aert shouldn't have sprinted the other day, then Sagan wouldn't have barged him.

This is basically what you're saying.

No, it is not. But keep living in your own little world where the only visible colors are black and white.

 

[RedheadDane]

Higuita crashed again?!

You're... referring to his second crash - a while ago - right? Not a third crash...

 

[BlueRoads]

I'd say Jungels was totally concentrated on the green thing and neglected any other thing for a moment. Not concentrated, but not "I don't care about others", I would think.

But really, I just very much hope Higuita is okay.

 

[BlueRoads]

You're... referring to his second crash - a while ago - right? Not a third crash...

They said he crashed between the cars again - but I did not see that.