Tour de France 2020 | Stage 15 (Lyon - Grand Colombier, 174.5 km)

[Salvarani]

JV has brought the best team. It is no surprise they have most riders left right now. No other team seems strong enough to control the pace anyway.

And if another team was supposed to put the hammer down on this climb, would only have been foolish.

Actually they went faster than I thought up this one.

Brutal day with 53 km/h in the first hour.

 

[Luthor]

Why is sagan not staying with the grupetto?

 

[Ted Striker]

To be fair Sky/Ineos didn't usually reduce the peloton to 30 on the first climb of a 3 climb stage

true, but they mob the front on the climbs the same way JV have in this tour yet when Sky done it, people would go crazy at them...not much getting said about JV doing it

 

[Valv.Piti]

We are not afraid of winning or losing.

But really we wouldn't fight we would make sacrifices at an altar to Angelo Zomegnan

Zomegnan, what a freaking legend. Im still so sad about that Zoncolan-stage in 2011, especially after playing my last edition of PCM and shredding the peloton to pieces with my Euskaltel-Euskadi team on that climb which cannot be named before Zoncolan

 

[gregrowlerson]

Well usually that first climb isn't this steep.

That climb was actually, dare I say it....Giroesque.

 

[TomLPC]

I expected 4 JV left after that nightmare first climb.

SIX!?

 

[Salvarani]

true, but they mob the front on the climbs the same way JV have in this tour yet when Sky done it, people would go crazy at them...not much getting said about JV doing it

The team with the leader usually controls the pace. Unless another team wants to do something different. And if someone wants to do something different they would have to be strong.

 

[perico]

Even in Armstrong’s hey day you had guys who would be virtual yellow on the road before they started crushing it. Never seems to happen much now.

 

[WKA311]

true, but they mob the front on the climbs the same way JV have in this tour yet when Sky done it, people would go crazy at them...not much getting said about JV doing it

People are saying it every day. But Jumbo hasn't done this for nearly a decade now.

 

[ppanther92]

Even in Armstrong’s hey day you had guys who would be virtual yellow on the road before they started crushing it. Never seems to happen much now.

In the Armstrong days you had that really often but the 10min+ breaks kind of vanished over the last years.

 

[Breezy1985]

true, but they mob the front on the climbs the same way JV have in this tour yet when Sky done it, people would go crazy at them...not much getting said about JV doing it

Actually loads has been said about it and it keeps being brought up.
And the answer is always the same. People don't care what JV do as long as Ineos are finally being challenged. Maybe if JV win the next 5 years in a row we will hate them too but for now it's new and exciting

 

[Luthor]

true, but they mob the front on the climbs the same way JV have in this tour yet when Sky done it, people would go crazy at them...not much getting said about JV doing it

If people are getting dropped by Gesink, it's not JV's fault. Too many wounded people. Carapaz got unlucky today.

 

[Brumdog66]

true, but they mob the front on the climbs the same way JV have in this tour yet when Sky done it, people would go crazy at them...not much getting said about JV doing it

Fair enough don't personally have a problem with either team their entitled to ride defensively its the other teams that just settle and fight for 8th position that annoys me.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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[Krokro]

true, but they mob the front on the climbs the same way JV have in this tour yet when Sky done it, people would go crazy at them...not much getting said about JV doing it

No, no matter the team, a dominant Armada is boring for the show.

Kwiatek to the doctors car.

 

[Rollthedice]

Bernal is left with only his personal belongings.

 

[richwallone]

Why is sagan not staying with the grupetto?

Too slow for him

 

[Luthor]

Bernal is left with only his personal belongings.

Doesn't he have Sivakov and Castro?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Even in Armstrong’s hey day you had guys who would be virtual yellow on the road before they started crushing it. Never seems to happen much now.

In stages like this that's largely been a by-product of us actually having a maillot vert battle, though. In most of the flat stages (not stage 7 obviously), though, it's been a trend since Bob Stapleton's train of hate with HTC-Columbia in 2009-10 that the break only gets 2-3 minutes rather than 10... it is infecting other races, but the Tour does have the highest incidences of such stages where a break that would have little chance regardless is held very close throughout, because the exposure that comes with the Tour is so high and so the sprinters' teams do not want to risk letting slip one of their opportunities for a stage win.

Like the problem with the timid racing and attitudes like Kuss', however, we do have a problem of a whole generation of cyclists who've never known it any other way, so the doomed break of the day is less appealing when it is controlled so tightly they can't even dare to dream.

 

[meat puppet]

Bernal is left with only his personal belongings.

And by the looks of things, they too will be repo-ed today.

 

[TomLPC]

Indeed, it's a credit to the best team of the race that they are so strong, they aren't doing anything wrong, but that doesn't mean we will support them doing it. Most of us will root for the lone maverick irrespective of the nationality, rather than the teams crushing it, simply because it's more enjoyable. Besides, my my family didn't negotiate 800 years of British rule for me to take it too personally when a couple of Dutch lads call me Anglo Saxon on an internet cycling forum.

 

[Simurgh]

Philosopher and Pinot hanging at the back

 

[perico]

Speaking of NTT, I completely forgot that Kreuziger is here. He’s been completely anonymous.

 

[Simurgh]

Roglic to win the stage btw (just tuned in)

 

[Cassirer]

Doesn't he have Sivakov and Castro?

There are 5 ineos guys around now (including bernal)