Tour de France 2020 | Stage 15 (Lyon - Grand Colombier, 174.5 km)

[TomLPC]

Good job mate, run after riders screaming in their faces with no facemask during a pandemic.

 

[Pirazziattacks]

Gesink's stringing them out so much Ledanois is still there after dropping back from the break. The JV train at the moment is about as interesting as the original and still the worst Sky train in 2012. At least Froome would unleash and destroy the opposition every now and then.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Kwiatkowski looks good now.

 

[perico]

Jesus Herrada is like the tortoise. He always gets dropped by accelerations but they can’t ever completely get rid of him.

 

[johnymax]

Kwiatkowski is looking easy. The best rider for Ineos in this Tour probably.

 

[Red Rick]

Peloton gonna take KoM points?

 

[TomLPC]

Flowers has been skys best tour rider for years now

 

[bob.a.feet]

I believe the carousel has come full circle: Pierre Rolland is the next great French hope.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Gesink's stringing them out so much Ledanois is still there after dropping back from the break. The JV train at the moment is about as interesting as the original and still the worst Sky train in 2012. At least Froome would unleash and destroy the opposition every now and then.

Don't think Sky 2012 and JV 2020 are the worst trains in recent history, rather that in both years the other teams are/were really weak. Pogacar essentially has no team and Ineos have f*cked up their preparation spectacularly, crashes have obviously also helped neither team.

 

[johnymax]

Cosnefroy doing an amazing job defending that mountain jersey. He might survive today's stage.

 

[Luthor]

Don't think Sky 2012 and JV 2020 are the worst trains in recent history, rather that in both years the other teams are/were really weak. Pogacar essentially has no team and Ineos have f*cked up their preparation spectacularly, crashes have obviously also helped neither team.

We still have lots of riders within 2 minutes. Also this is the best day so far for JV.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Gesink's stringing them out so much Ledanois is still there after dropping back from the break. The JV train at the moment is about as interesting as the original and still the worst Sky train in 2012. At least Froome would unleash and destroy the opposition every now and then.

This is actually an even greater display of collective climbing strength then I can recall from 2012 Sky. They had Wiggins, Froome, Rogers and Porte; those 4 were still there with only a dozen or so riders left. But their 5th and 6th best climbers weren't as strong as Jumbo 2020.

 

[perico]

Damian Caruso has had a solid Tour so far. Always around for Landa and quietly in the Top 20.

 

[TomLPC]

Hincape, Ekimov, Rubiera, Hamilton, Heras, Lance is STILL peak train, edging out 2012 sky. The later vintage with Landis included was also good.

 

[Andy262]

As fully expected, after a few unexpectedly ace stages, this one will be a Jumbot snoozefest.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Damian Caruso has had a solid Tour so far. Always around for Landa and quietly in the Top 20.

Ninja uncovered!

 

[Pirazziattacks]

This is actually an even greater display of collective climbing strength then I can recall from 2012 Sky. They had Wiggins, Froome, Rogers and Porte; those 4 were still there with only a dozen or so riders left. But their 5th and 6th best climbers weren't as strong as Jumbo 2020.

Imagine if they had Groenewegen leading the peloton up cat 1s like Cav did. That would really cap it off.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Hincape, Ekimov, Rubiera, Hamilton, Heras, Lance is STILL peak train, edging out 2012 sky. The later vintage with Landis included was also good.

2001-2002?

 

[Savant12]

2012 Sky didn't have 6 riders to the last high mountain. They also didn't have a domestique going for the occasional sprint and then leading the peleton up the last mountain.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Hincape, Ekimov, Rubiera, Hamilton, Heras, Lance is STILL peak train, edging out 2012 sky. The later vintage with Landis included was also good.

I prefer the one that had Ace dropping everyone on PDB but Basso.

 

[TomLPC]

2001-2002?

Indeed, 2001 tour

1	Lance Armstrong	United States	U.S. Postal Service	1	[3]
2	Roberto Heras	Spain	U.S. Postal Service	15	[3]
3	Viatcheslav Ekimov	Russia	U.S. Postal Service	82	[3]
4	Tyler Hamilton	United States	U.S. Postal Service	94	[3]
5	George Hincapie	United States	U.S. Postal Service	71	[3]
6	Steffen Kjærgaard	Norway	U.S. Postal Service	101	[3]
7	Víctor Hugo Peña	Colombia	U.S. Postal Service	79	[3]
8	José Luis Rubiera	Spain	U.S. Postal Service	38	[3]
9	Christian Vande Velde	United States	U.S. Postal Service	DNF	[3]

Edit: I was also looking at the 2005 discovery team which smashed the TTT record speed at the time, but was distracted by this awesome looking vintage; 2005 Liberty Seguros

91	Roberto Heras	31​	45​
92	Joseba Beloki	31​	75​
93	Alberto Contador	22​	31​
94	Allan Davis	24​	84​
95	Igor González de Galdeano	31​	DNF​
96	Jörg Jaksche	28​	16​
97	Luis León Sánchez	21​	108​
98	Marcos Serrano	32​	40​
99	Ángel Vicioso	28​	64​

 

[perico]

2012 Sky didn't have 6 riders to the last high mountain. They also didn't have a domestique going for the occasional sprint and then leading the peleton up the last mountain.

LOL I’m pretty sure they had Cavendish and EVBH in 2012

 

[titan31]

Don't think Sky 2012 and JV 2020 are the worst trains in recent history, rather that in both years the other teams are/were really weak. Pogacar essentially has no team and Ineos have f*cked up their preparation spectacularly, crashes have obviously also helped neither team.

Jumbo has crashes too tbf. Bennett has not been anywhere close to himself after his early crash. Also, missing Kruijswijk from the Dauphine crash.

 

[Pirazziattacks]

Don't think Sky 2012 and JV 2020 are the worst trains in recent history, rather that in both years the other teams are/were really weak. Pogacar essentially has no team and Ineos have f*cked up their preparation spectacularly, crashes have obviously also helped neither team.

Definitely not the strongest overall, but still incredibly boring. At least JV aren't dropping everyone to the point that Sky did when the only interest factor was whether Froome would try to drop Wiggo or not.

 

[ppanther92]

This is actually an even greater display of collective climbing strength then I can recall from 2012 Sky. They had Wiggins, Froome, Rogers and Porte; those 4 were still there with only a dozen or so riders left. But their 5th and 6th best climbers weren't as strong as Jumbo 2020.

But then again that wasn't because they couldn't but because they brought a sprint train for Cav with Knees/EBH/Eisel. And EBH even wasn't that far off from what WvA does (of course not finishing it off in a similar way).