Tour de France 2020 | Stage 20 ITT (Lure - La Planche des Belles Filles, 36.2km)

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Just watched this breathtaking stage on a delayed signal. This is cycling on the finest shelf.
And no wonder a tidal wave hit the forum.

Must say, that after Aru chose to abandon and then Formolo too later, I though the TJV-train would rumble all over.
But Pogacar proved me wrong. What an incredible performance.

 

[tobydawq]

You have a minute lead in a GT with a guy who has like 7/10 last ITTs he's done and who put 1'30 into the 2nd guy the last GT ITT they did vs each other.

It's like I'm supposed to trash Contador for not dropping Schleck on the 2010 Tourmalet despite being the better ITTer.

Dumoulin might have been 90 seconds closer if he doesn't commit harakiri on the Peyresourde. Then what. He didn't have the legs to attack most of the Tour, yet he's supposed to attack in case the non ITTer wins the ITT by over 1'20 on everyone?

You asked where his chances were to put more time on Pogacar, I answered, now you say my answer wasn't good because Roglic had no incentive to attack Pogacar. But that wasn't your original complaint. Stop pisti'ing me.

 

[gregrowlerson]

I placed a bet on him at odds 15 to 1. Sadly not much money. All my other pre-race bets failed.

I did that as well. Also won a bit more than that with Porte top 3 (pre tour start at 20-1)

It must be said though that usually my bets are a total Rabofail

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Fun fact:

Pogacar turns 22 at midnight, during the team party tomorrow night

 

[Red Rick]

Fun fact:

Pogacar turns 22 at midnight, during the team party tomorrow night

Should definitely test him for alcohol then.

 

[Anderis]

Nothing against TJV, I like them quite much actually, but I'm super happy that being so passive in the mountains backfired on them and Pogacar won. I preferred the way Sky were using their train in the mountains- always trying to destroy the peloton at least once in the race- much more. Jumbo just kept everything together. Hopefully Roglic will not have so much trust in his ITT anymore and will approach future GTs more aggresively.

Incredible that Porte has managed finally managed his podium at the dusk of his career, after all of his failures and misfortunes. If 4-5 years ago there still had been people who had believed in him, I'm sure most of them have lost hope by now, but he did it!

 

[gregrowlerson]

This Tour will be fun too rate, extremely boring to so so mountain stages and above average to great everything else.

Probably better than the 2012 Tour.

 

[Red Rick]

It's not like Pogacar won by riding super risky and ultra aggessive lol. He was really aggressive for 2 stages in the Pyrenees then somewhat aggro on on the Puy Mary and that's it.

 

[Big Doopie]

Pog just made huuuuuuge gaps on that final climb onall the favorites.

Nuts.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

During the stage today, before Pogacar had started, the Danish commentators talked about how the loss of Kruijswijk had proven to be inconsequential

 

[Valv.Piti]

Probably better than the 2012 Tour.

Definitely a lot better than the 2012 Tour..

A bit above mediore in my estimation (on a TdF-scale, not Giro lol), but will be interesting to see what the people vote!

 

[fuiers]

I miss one day and something like this happens. Well done Pogacar!

 

[gunara]

Probably better than the 2012 Tour.

That's too easy

 

[Forever The Best]

It's not like Pogacar won by riding super risky and ultra aggessive lol. He was really aggressive for 2 stages in the Pyrenees then somewhat aggro on on the Puy Mary and that's it.

But Roglic looked stronger than Pogacar in the Alps, in Glieres he could have gained some time for instance.

 

[gregrowlerson]

The mighty have fallen (more or less): Roglic, Bernal, Quintana and Yates. On the other hand, Porte, Linda, Mas and, of course, Pogacar moved steadily up through the GC.

Linda?

I suppose he is rather good looking

 

[Rollthedice]

The winning team

Kristoff looks like Pogs dad

Dammit, Aru will miss a career defining party in Paris.

 

[Breezy1985]

I did that as well. Also won a bit more than that with Porte top 3 (pre tour start at 20-1)

It must be said though that usually my bets are a total Rabofail

Surely Jumbofail is a good name for this now

 

[Red Rick]

Dammit, Aru will miss a career defining party in Paris.

Still has had yellow for longer than Pogi tho

 

[gregrowlerson]

Did Froome ever have a TT performance like this?

Well, the 2011 Vuelta stage 10 was at least as surprising.

 

[Volderke]

Why don't people give me the 19 chances Roglic missed to drop Pogacar.

Some low-hanging fruit:
Stage 8 to Loudenvielle: follow Pogacar on Peyresourde, or at least try harder to limit the losses. Potential: 38 seconds
Stage 9 to Laruns: too much pulling by Roglic in the last couple of K's. He pulled his biggest competition (Pogacar) to take more time on the likes of Uran, Bardet, Porte,... Potential: only the bonus seconds (2 or so if he won the stage instead of Pogacar)
stage 13 to Puy Marie: so much good work by the team, only to NOT take any bonus seconds and allow the break to take them. No real attacks by Roglic. Potential: some bonus seconds
stage 17 to col de la Loze: it was clear Pogacar was pumping from before the last K. No real attack until it was too late to take significant amount of time. Potential: 10-15 seconds more.

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[gregrowlerson]

Why don't people give me the 19 chances Roglic missed to drop Pogacar.

BTW, any room over at the HC, or you already booked out?

 

[gregrowlerson]

No, but the Vuelta 2011 stage 10 one was pretty shocking

""I wasn't really expecting that," Froome said at the finish. "

"I was just trying to stay in contention and be there along with Bradley Wiggins, the team leader. I just had a fantastic day and somehow I've ended up in the leader's jersey. It's a dream come true."

He says, tongue firmly in cheek

Beat me to it.

 

[Rollthedice]

Riders who have won Tour de France and another 2 additional jerseys in the same Tour:

2020 TADEJ POGACAR
1972 Eddy Merckx
1970 Eddy Merckx
1969 Eddy Merckx

 

[Red Rick]

I think I have to the conclusions Dumoulin made a huge tactical blunder

When he didn't attack Froome after the latter crashed on Montevergine di Mercogliano in 2018. He should've known what was coming.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

According to my pocket calculator, Tadej Pogacars VAM number on last climb was 1867.
Three weeks within Le Tour.
And including a bike change,