Tour de France 2020 | Stage 8 (Gazeres-sur-Geronne - Loudenvielle

[Salvarani]

Obviously....... but if the guy can't sit on a wheel, without being on a categorized climb, it's rather pointless to try to get him back

Okay, wasn’t answering if it was a bad decision.

Only adding to the part of bad domestic work, as the other poster viewed it as.

 

[bambino]

Looks like Bardet is not going to break today his stage 5 average heart rate of 97bpm.

 

[Faserr]

Greipel had a heart rate under 100 during the whole stage 5

 

[bambino]

Greipel had a heart rate under 100 during the whole stage 5

106bpm average to be fair. It just tells all about the race so far. Par yesterday.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Obviously....... but if the guy can't sit on a wheel, without being on a categorized climb, it's rather pointless to try to get him back

you haven’t thought that through. Not being able to hold someone’s wheel when they suddenly accelerate at the end of an extended all out effort doesn’t mean you can’t hold on in a group. If you are a super strong classics guy acting as a domestique part of the job is finding the right equilibrium between pulling your leader back and killing him.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Anyone think they are overdoing the HC rating with Bales? It isn't exactly the Tourmalet.

 

[broppo]

is there any way the break doesn't make it?

 

[Broccolidwarf]

you haven’t thought that through. Not being able to hold someone’s wheel when they suddenly accelerate at the end of an extended all out effort doesn’t mean you can’t hold on in a group.

Nobody "suddenly" accelerated, he was just riding tempo

 

[bob.a.feet]

So now that everything is boring, are any Belgians on here watching the football match tonight?

How can you say the Tour is boring and then watch the Nations League? International friendly tournament

 

[gregrowlerson]

is there any way the break doesn't make it?

Only Tony Martin waving his arms.

 

[BlueRoads]

is there any way the break doesn't make it?

1. van Aert feels good and decides he wants the next win
2. huge crash of break riders, Zakarin out, Powless hurt, Hermans 4 minutes till his bike is changed
3. an asteroid

 

[Broccolidwarf]

How can you say the Tour is boring and then watch the Nations League? International friendly tournament

Playing the top ranked team in the world, with a new head coach, in the middle of Corona, is rather interesting to me

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Nobody "suddenly" accelerated, he was just riding tempo

you are the one who claimed that he got back to within 300m and then “put his head down and closed the gap”, indicating an increased effort.

Of course one of the very top cobbled guys in the peloton can drop his captain in circumstances which are all about his strengths. That’s hardly a surprise. It’s part of his job not to.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

I'm wondering what Kragh can do today...... He's been training a lot with Fuglsang in the mountains, who says he is in his best climbing shape ever.

He should be too heavy for it though.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

you are the one who claimed that he got back to within 300m and then “put his head down and closed the gap”, indicating an increased effort.

Of course one of the very top cobbled guys in the peloton can drop his captain in circumstances which are all about his strengths. That’s hardly a surprise. It’s part of his job not to.

I don't quite understand, why "putting your head down" makes you think there is a sudden acceleration, but that is not what I meant

As for the second part, I absolutely disagree, of course you should be able to sit on the wheel of the guy bringing you back, in relatively flat terrain.

 

[richwallone]

The race for the green jersey is becoming a joke!!!

 

[Luthor]

The way I view Ineos, they want the first week as quiet as possible.

Bernal came into the Tour slightly injured.
Carapaz has timed his shape for later, because he was supposed to ride the Giro.
Roglic was in better shape pre-Tour, so they will be hoping the tables turn week 3.

I fully understand why they try to ride defensively until the first rest day.

Dumoulin exists. It's debatable if he is in better form than Bernal. TJV wants to have both their leaders up there in the final TT.

 

[ThePirate81]

Montelimar 2006 again?
What the hell is wrong with Roglic?
He should gain as much as he can on Bernal before the third week.
Guess he will manage to lose the Tour in the end.

 

[TomLPC]

So now that everything is boring, are any Belgians on here watching the football match tonight?

They will do their usual, great players smashing a bunch of middling teams then look tired when it comes to an actual tournament.

England however, there's a REAL team, always delivering, favourites for the euros, a young team, harmony in the camp, ready for the massive revenge tie tonight.

 

[Frankschleck]

Montelimar 2006 again?
What the hell is wrong with Roglic?
He should gain as much as he can on Bernal before the third week.
Guess he will manage to lose the Tour in the end.

It's Bernal and the others who need to attack. Roglic doesn't. Domoulin still riding to get in form and they are leading the race because they will crush everyone on the TT

 

[Breh]

KAMAZ!
Let's go Zakarin!

I'm wondering what Kragh can do today...... He's been training a lot with Fuglsang in the mountains, who says he is in his best climbing shape ever.

He should be too heavy for it though.

Your obsession with Danish riders is almost disturbing.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

I don't quite understand, why "putting your head down" makes you think there is a sudden acceleration, but that is not what I meant

As for the second part, I absolutely disagree, of course you should be able to sit on the wheel of the guy bringing you back, in relatively flat terrain.

that is, with all due respect, remarkably stupid. If Bennett could reliably hold Asgreen’s wheel in extended all out classics style efforts in the wind, he’d be a cobbled classics contender, something he conspicuously is not. It was self evidently much harder to catch up with (ie travel faster than) that group on one rider’s wheel than it would be to sit in that group had it been caught.

 

[Luthor]

Montelimar 2006 again?
What the hell is wrong with Roglic?
He should gain as much as he can on Bernal before the third week.
Guess he will manage to lose the Tour in the end.

Roglic isn't 100 % and he isn't taking any risks.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

KAMAZ!
Let's go Zakarin!





Your obsession with Danish riders is almost disturbing.

Why?

 

[Rollthedice]

The race for the green jersey is becoming a joke!!!

Much better than the race for yellow.