Agree. But then again - Pogačar is the best climber of this tour, isn't he?so pogacar got 80 points in two mountain top finishes, Poels got 88 total
smells like a bad points distribution more than anything
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Agree. But then again - Pogačar is the best climber of this tour, isn't he?so pogacar got 80 points in two mountain top finishes, Poels got 88 total
smells like a bad points distribution more than anything
No gifts.
just hope its not over by stage 3When does the Vuelta starts?
14 August.When does the Vuelta starts?
There are more than 3 riders in the race. Maybe we would have had a proper breakaway with Soulor in the beginning, and different plausible scenarios for how Tourmalet and Luz-Ardiden would have been raced. Even the crappy 2011 stage had far more racing than this.Tbh I doubt this would have played out much differently, these 3 guys knew they were the best, the GC is settled with Urán out of the picture more or less so it would always be a waiting game
G-Mart to launch another 6 minute GC bomb tomorrow in the breakaway and get on the podium.
I'll tell you, Wiggo was right!Wiggo thinks Teddy Pagacha will win again.
Won't take much to be better than this Tour. A good first week but ehhh...When does the Vuelta starts?
On the other hand people got mad when a rando breakway guy would win the KOM and not a top star.
I do think the massive discrepancy in a HC MTF is silly, though.
Think O'Connor will be happy with 5th or 6th. The KOM also highlighted the demise of Quintana. He's a shadow of what he was four years ago.All it takes is DQS to sabotage the breakaway for the green jersey and time limit for Pogacar to win KoM jersey.
It's not like there was anything any rider could to today to let the breakaway win, there was 0 shot at that.
Maybe you can argue the KoM hunters weren't good enough, or that O'Connor should've gone for the KoM, but whatever.
the vuelta will be fun
The biggest problem wasn't the gap to Pogacar, it was that P2 and P3 were within seconds of each other. In that situation they were always going to sit on and hope for a decisive kick at the end.Tbh I doubt this would have played out much differently, these 3 guys knew they were the best, the GC is settled with Urán out of the picture more or less so it would always be a waiting game
LandissimoWho is going, Pog, Rog, Bernal?? Anyone else of note?
Right, im strictly speaking of the climb to Luz Ardiden. Of course it would have been a better stage to watch from the start if it was longer and there were more climbs etc., but I didnt watch the start today. My point just was that after yesterday, I kinda expected Luz Ardiden to go down like this - Vingegaard defensive, Carapaz trying some miracle shot at the end (didnt have enough) and Pogacar trying to win the stage. No need to go from afar today after yday.There are more than 3 riders in the race. Maybe we would have had a proper breakaway with Soulor in the beginning, and different plausible scenarios for how Tourmalet and Luz-Ardiden would have been raced. Even the crappy 2011 stage had far more racing than this.
Not really but he was a killer for Froome in the mountains for a few years there.comparing 2021 Porte and 2016 Porte?????
Who is going, Pog, Rog, Bernal?? Anyone else of note?
This, that has bothered me the most with the mountain stages with a flat start: the pack fodder breakaways (climbing wise) with no chance at all.There are more than 3 riders in the race. Maybe we would have had a proper breakaway with Soulor in the beginning, and different plausible scenarios for how Tourmalet and Luz-Ardiden would have been raced. Even the crappy 2011 stage had far more racing than this.
Is there anyone else of note?Who is going, Pog, Rog, Bernal?? Anyone else of note?
Hopefully next Tour will have more elite climbers.
yeah people always say that but then why dont you just scrap the entire point system all together. And make a jury decide the winner. Then the jury can vote for Cavendish as the best sprinter. Pogacar the best climber. Obviously that would suck so the argument of who is the best sprinter or climber is not relevant. The jerseys should be handed out to the people who are really going for the jerseys, not some gc guy who accidentally takes it......All the category 3 and 2 climbpoints are almost totally irrelevant now. Very broken system....Agree. But then again - Pogačar is the best climber of this tour, isn't he?