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Tour de France Tour de France 2022: Stage 16 (Carcassonne – Foix, 178.5k)

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He got caught up in the racing as the racer he is. It might have been a mistake but we can only say that knowing the outcome later. It was looking good until the last 5km of the stage.

Also for some reason people keep saying he shouldn’t have chased Roglic. Roglic was about 2/3 minutes behind, Pogacar had no teammates left and Up the road Roglic has 2 teammates, including a freakish WVA. Letting Roglic (whose attacks were super strong) go would’ve been a huge risk.
 
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Can someone please explain the symbols? Madouas finished "é"?
 
It's not only hindsight. When it happened, I couldn't figure out what on Earth he was closing Roglic for.

And yes, he's (Roglic) a great rider and there's respect between them and yada yada yada, but he still should have just let him go.

I understood him closing down Roglic 100% with van Aert up the road. If Roglic was feeling good again and you gift him 2-3 minutes that would've been a huge mistake.
 
No no you don’t understand, JV tactics were beyond stupid today! What if Vignegaard would have needed WvA to hold his hand or buy him ice cream in the first half of the stage? Would have been game over!

I wouldnt say they were "stupid". More that they were bold. Because things could happen when you least expect it, just look at the day before the rest day. Would have been horrible if 2 riders were 7 minutes ahead, if something similar had happened.

Now it looked perfect with the outcome of the stage. Controlled in the end.
 
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Here the commentators are praising the concept of having team mates waiting on the top of the last climb, but isn't it a bit late to make a difference? At a point where there were almost no flat sections left?

The concept is great. If you have a gap on your rival and you have a teammate at the top who start pulling hard for you while your rival is alone then you most likely completely crack your rival.
 
Jumbos tactics of sending 2 men in the break worked out fine but it was still an unnecessary risk. They didn't use Van Hooydonck and Van Aert was of limited assistance only to gain a little bit of time on some other top 10 riders on the descent. The most bizarre tactic of the day or possibly the entire tour was the Movistar tactic of riding at the front on the Peguere. Baffling when you just knew that Mas hadn't got the legs.

Ass usual Ineos do nothing but defend with no attempt to produce innovative tactics despite their superior numbers, they are so robotic to watch.
 
I wouldnt say they were "stupid". More that they were bold. Because things could happen when you least expect it, just look at the day before the rest day. Would have been a horrible if 2 riders were 7 minutes ahead, if something similar had happened.

Now it looked perfect with the outcome of the stage. Controlled in the end.
I agree that there was some amount of risk, but not as much as some here portrayed earlier today. If Vignegaard would have had some kind of a disaster, he still had Laporte & Benoot to pull for less than ten minutes, and after that Wout & NVH could have been there to help.
 
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The concept is great. If you have a gap on your rival and you have a teammate at the top who start pulling hard for you while your rival is alone then you most likely completely crack your rival.
It is a great concept as long as Wout is not in the race bossing everyone around. The guys is covering everything, he's nuts.
 
Jumbos tactics of sending 2 men in the break worked out fine but it was still an unnecessary risk. They didn't use Van Hooydonck and Van Aert was of limited assistance only to gain a little bit of time on some other top 10 riders on the descent. The most bizarre tactic of the day or possibly the entire tour was the Movistar tactic of riding at the front on the Peguere. Baffling when you just knew that Mas hadn't got the legs.

Ass usual Ineos do nothing but defend with no attempt to produce innovative tactics despite their superior numbers, they are so robotic to watch.

V was never in trouble, did not overtax himself at any moment, and saw very little wind in his face all day. I'd say all in all, a very good day for Mumbo Jumbo.
 
Also for some reason people keep saying he shouldn’t have chased Roglic. Roglic was about 2/3 minutes behind, Pogacar had no teammates left and Up the road Roglic has 2 teammates, including a freakish WVA. Letting Roglic (whose attacks were super strong) go would’ve been a huge risk.

Yup, exactly. Everyone just playing monday morning QB.

The racing was on and everything was happening within seconds/minutes. Pog himself had to make split decisions. There is no way the DS had time to say anything to Pog at that moment. By then things had already happened or was happening. In the end he just had a bad day or ending to the last climb. Vingegaard was stronger. Pog seems to have come to terms with it. Even congratulated him directly after the finish. He is looking forward and doing what he can do now do try and win the race. Still a few stages left. Anything could happen. No time to dwell on the past.
 
I agree that there was some amount of risk, but not as much as some here portrayed earlier today. If Vignegaard would have had some kind of a disaster, he still had Laporte & Benoot to pull for less than ten minutes, and after that Wout & NVH could have been there to help.

Agree. I think getting riders upfront is more valuable.
Being 7 minutes up the road when disasters strikes behind means putting your foot on the ground and wait for 7 minutes and you can start helping. It's not that big of a risk imo.
Having van Aert upfront is much better than him getting dropped by Majka when they start climbing.
 
Yup, exactly. Everyone just playing monday morning QB.

The racing was on and everything was happening within seconds/minutes. Pog himself had to make split decisions. There is no way the DS had time to say anything to Pog at that moment. By then things had already happened or was happening. In the end he just had a bad day or ending to the last climb. Vingegaard was stronger. Pog seems to have come to terms with it. Even congratulated him directly after the finish. He is looking forward and doing what he can do now do try and win the race. Still a few stages left. Anything could happen. No time to dwell on the past.

No, not Monday morning QB. There were plenty of people who wondered why he was chasing in the moment.

Pog himself said he screwed up.

Mumbo Jumbo used Pog's aggressiveness against him. Well played.
 
Jumbos tactics of sending 2 men in the break worked out fine but it was still an unnecessary risk. They didn't use Van Hooydonck and Van Aert was of limited assistance only to gain a little bit of time on some other top 10 riders on the descent.
They did use NVH between the two mountains. And I think the mere fact that WvA was there to close any possible gaps acted as a deterring factor for Pogi to not even try.
 

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