If he can, he will.On a separate topic, does Geschke go hard tomorrow up front to try to take 20 points up the first climb and hope that's enough to hang on to the KOM jersey in Paris?
If he can, he will.On a separate topic, does Geschke go hard tomorrow up front to try to take 20 points up the first climb and hope that's enough to hang on to the KOM jersey in Paris?
Vingegaard been stronger in the mountains in 2022.. that has been quite clear....just as we also saw at certain moments in last year's TdF where Vingegaard as the only one - also were able to drop Pogacar on the Mount Ventoux stage and took a significant chunk, like 40 sec... but sadly with a downhill where he was alone and where Pogacar could lean on others to close the gap.Congratulations to Tadej Pogačar for winning the stage.
It was a nice stage to watch. UAE today did a better job with two active teammates left for Pogačar. Compared to whole JV. Ideally McNulty would take the stage today. As for GC action. It's more or less clear, since the stage 11, this is JV race to lose. Vingegaard is a type of cyclist that managed to stay on Pogačar wheel on previous races. Once he got two minutes and a half advantage on Pogačar the race was effectively over. Today's stage confirmed Pogačar likely would be strong enough to not get dropped and would more or less always take bonus seconds on Vingegaard at the finish line. In a mano-a-mano fight. Without JV sacrificing Roglič on stage 11 i would expect for Pogačar to have this race under control at about a minute advantage over Vingegaard. Now Vingegaard just has to stay on Pogačar wheel and he wins the Tour.
But will he and JV manage to do that? Personally i wouldn't be so sure about that. Stage 19 looks risky.
We'll see.
Roglic usually won any stages he contested at the finish. He can sprint. Jonas looks back and wonders to himself if he'll win.Vingegaard is riding too much like Roglic which I dont like at all. You gotta strike while the iron is hot, you never know what happens tomorrow. Too defensive today as Im absolutely confident he would have dropped Pogi, but I guess they all waited for the super funny, super steep ramp? I guess he waited for Pogi to attack and then to counter, but it never came.. not only do you win the stage (presumably) if you go from further out, but you also reverse the bonus seconds and gain a few seconds on top of that most likely. I don't know man, I dont like this super conservative Vingegaard, but then again, tomorrows stage is better and Hautacam is better, so I guess he can find some seconds there.
Yes, I wouldn't be super confident with 2 min on the TT. I have seen what Pogacar can do in those circumstances, and hitting that 3 min mark would result in Pogacar not smelling blood.
Then again, maybe Im wrong here and Vingegaard was on limit, but I doubt it.
who are the "new school cycling school" fans here, pretty much all the "old school" fans were talking about how bad this route wasYet again a brilliant GC nountain stage battle.
Yet again huge gaps on moderate gradient mountain.
Yet gain proof that new school cycling fans are so wrong.
"The riders make the race" still requires a course for them to make the race on, though. Riders wanting to make the race given 21 flat stages with no obstacles, wind, cobbles or anything will fail, but riders not wanting to make the race can ruin even the best of routes - see the 2012 Giro Passo Giau stage for a particularly obvious example.given how poorly this route was received looks like The Riders Make The Race crew once again easily notches another win
in all seriousness though this was a 130km mountain stage, that's about as "new school" as you can get lol. maybe I'm just overreacting to a single post.
Wasn't the stage only 120 kilometres? Isn't that too short for mano a mano action?Yet again a brilliant GC nountain stage battle.
Yet again huge gaps on moderate gradient mountain.
Yet gain proof that new school cycling fans are so wrong.
according to tracker data he was pretty fast up the last climbCongratulations to Jakobsen for making the time limit. Highlight of the cycling day for me.
He was one of only a few riders to ride hard on that last climb. Most were probably taking it easy.according to tracker data he was pretty fast up the last climb
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Sorry but I don't doubt it, you're wrong. Yeah it's more attractive with attacks all over the place but this isn't a friggin Hollywood movie. To me it's clear a lot of people don't realise just how fast they rode this stage. It was a staggering pace. They were both completely at their limit imo. This was as mano-a-mano as it gets. Don't confuse that with blistering accelerations.Vingegaard is riding too much like Roglic which I dont like at all. You gotta strike while the iron is hot, you never know what happens tomorrow. Too defensive today as Im absolutely confident he would have dropped Pogi, but I guess they all waited for the super funny, super steep ramp? I guess he waited for Pogi to attack and then to counter, but it never came.. not only do you win the stage (presumably) if you go from further out, but you also reverse the bonus seconds and gain a few seconds on top of that most likely. I don't know man, I dont like this super conservative Vingegaard, but then again, tomorrows stage is better and Hautacam is better, so I guess he can find some seconds there.
Yes, I wouldn't be super confident with 2 min on the TT. I have seen what Pogacar can do in those circumstances, and hitting that 3 min mark would result in Pogacar not smelling blood.
Then again, maybe Im wrong here and Vingegaard was on limit, but I doubt it.
Are Pogacar and Vingegaard trying to finish the guy off???
Why do you think neither of them attacked on Peyragudes? Obviously because they heard Jakobsen was close to OTLAre Pogacar and Vingegaard trying to finish the guy off???
For sure for sure...they want to make him suffer another day, and put him OTL tomorrowWhy do you think neither of them attacked on Peyragudes? Obviously because they heard Jakobsen was close to OTL
I was kind of wondering why I got so many messages. But now I see the confusion. By far away I mean the last mountain but not wait for the sprint. Like Granon. I though it was obvious. Why would he attack from further away than the last mountain. Only an idiot would do that. Again I thought it was very, very obvious.That would be GC suicide if you saw what Bjerg and McNulty were capable of doing today. I think Ving is happy with this margin going into the TT
Agree for other races, maybe not for grand tour, too few riders remaining in third week will not be too pretty either.The carnage that we saw on a relatively short stage 17 suggests smaller sized teams is the way to go; 6 being probably the best number for balance imo.
I dont need no blistering accelerations, but my read on the race is that Vingegaard was stronger and they raced a 8 km, 8% at the end where you can force the issue if youre a truly stronger (which I think he was).Sorry but I don't doubt it, you're wrong. Yeah it's more attractive with attacks all over the place but this isn't a friggin Hollywood movie. To me it's clear a lot of people don't realise just how fast they rode this stage. It was a staggering pace. They were both completely at their limit imo. This was as mano-a-mano as it gets. Don't confuse that with blistering accelerations.
Yes WAS a track rider. As for the rest of your post - perfect definition of a dieselThomas a diesel? He was a track rider, he was a classics rider, then became a gc rider winning mountain top sprints. He's just not as strong as Pog, Vinnie and usually Quintana. He rides within himself and when the pace drops, he catches up.
Only way it happens IMOOutside chance for Pogacar to reverse attack riders below him for lower places by making a crazy suicide attack that blows up spectacularly.
I can't help but think McNulty did Kuss's job for him IMHOMcNulty, Man of the day. What a performance. Absolutly ridiculous. To me, on par with Padun back-to-back performances in last year Dauphine. He dropped everyone but two guys who are in their own class right now. He put 1 minute to Thomas on penultimate climb and additional 30 or 45s on last climb. And Brandon was all that time in the front, no rest. In the meantime Thomas was riding on the wheels in the descent and first false flat part to the last climb. And still Thomas lost 30s to McNulty in the last climb. Just wow.
I guess UAE has ther "co-leader" for the next year TDF so Pogi doesn't have to react on every move from Jonas/Roglic. He can TT, he can climb better than Kuss and Thomas, is punchy, has some sprint. Just perfect.