Tour de France Tour de France 2022: Stage 18 (Lourdes – Hautacam, 143.2k)

[Libertine Seguros]

Remember that the Riis stage was Unipuerto. Not fair to compare their times with mid-90s guys let alone fresh mid-90s guys.

 

[Lorzenz08]

 

[tobydawq]

Epic stuff yet again today. Every stage just delivers. This is like watching Better Call Saul, when you just know that every new episode is gonna be a world class one. Best Tour in, well I don't even know how long.

Yeah, I'm also speech- and breathless. It has been the wildest ride since I have followed cycling.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Vingegaard the stockbroker on his phone within seconds after he won the stage. Is there some fish auction back in Glyngøre he needs to follow closely?

Perhaps "The fish auctioneer" should be his nickname?

 

[GroupDK]

Trine Bramsen? The former minister of defence?

obviously Trine Marie Hansen..
The first he reaches out to after a stage, to share positive news with his loved ones.
Here with his child Frida.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Riders still on the course have about 10 minutes left to finish.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Riders still on the course have about 10 minutes left to finish.

Isn't like half the peloton still on the road? Good god.

 

[Red Rick]

Remember that the Riis stage was Unipuerto. Not fair to compare their times with mid-90s guys let alone fresh mid-90s guys.

I'm more interested in the Spandelles data.

That said, I think effects of repeated climbing efforts and climbing speeds of penultimate climbs are definitely where W/kg calculations tend to fall short. Now there's way too much focus on low Unipuerto stages.

 

[Red Rick]

Isn't like half the peloton still on the road? Good god.

Stages like today tend to have a gigantic gruppetto all coming in together.

 

[Poursuivant]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1550142932136730625

View: https://mobile.twitter.com/irishpeloton/status/1550142932136730625

 

[gregrowlerson]

The shame is I think we don't see Pog doing anything other than pure tour prep next year. No classics. He needs to come correct.

When does he get to target the Giro then (which also gives a better shot at the Vuelta)?

If he won 3 in a row everyone would say that he has to go for 4, then 5 (and then seek revenge/redemption after losing). When does it end?

 

[ruamruam]

The shame is I think we don't see Pog doing anything other than pure tour prep next year. No classics. He needs to come correct.

I think this will happen but hope it doesn’t. Great to see Pogacar going for the classics and the Tour

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Stages like today tend to have a gigantic gruppetto all coming in together.

Usually yes, but if the time limit becomes problematic the grupetto will fracture on the final climb - e.g. Tignes last year. Not today, though, enough flat early on in the end.

 

[KOM]

Riders still on the course have about 10 minutes left to finish.

Quickstep mountain train entered the station safely, dont think theres anyone behind

 

[Red Rick]

Usually yes, but if the time limit becomes problematic the grupetto will fracture on the final climb - e.g. Tignes last year. Not today, though, enough flat early on in the end.

I think the year Cavendish won his first green there was a gigantic gruppetto out of time on AdH because Contador hated sprinters that much. They just all got docked 25 points.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Most combative rider today - Wout!

 

[Finn84]

All riders within time limit. Six QS riders and Lecroq in the final group.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Quickstep mountain train entered the station safely, dont think theres anyone behind

Phil's commentary is confusing me, everyone has finished on time.

 

[tobydawq]

Nice save by Bjerg. And Zeits, why did he suddenly get into trouble after never having DNF'ed a Grand Tour in 20 tries?

And a Jakobsen win on the Champs would be very special after yesterday.

 

[Finn84]

There is a note in the rules that if there is big enough group outside time limit they may give exceptions which happened with Cavendish in 2011.

I recall also two times when entire peloton was OTL but allowed to continue: Pontarlier in 2001 and Montélimar in 2006.

 

[Tim Cahill]

There is a note in the rules that if there is big enough group outside time limit they may give exceptions which happened with Cavendish in 2011.

I recall also two times when entire peloton was OTL but allowed to continue: Pontarlier in 2001 and Montélimar in 2006.

Vuelta 2016, they couldn't be arsed on one of the stages, Larry Warbasse tried pretending that it was some sort of protest IIRC, they should've all been thrown out.

Edit: found it

For once we were not the pawns in their game, but the orchestrator of ours.

We made a decision as a group to stick together; to cross the finish line with our fellow riders – those on our own team as well as others, rather than as warring enemies.

that day, [...] (we) decided that we, as a group, were more powerful than individuals. It was an unintentional protest.

Much of the cycling world may not agree with how we rode the stage that day, but our lack of speed showed our increasing power. Each time we band together, we show that we are not powerless.

 

[tobydawq]

There is a note in the rules that if there is big enough group outside time limit they may give exceptions which happened with Cavendish in 2011.

I recall also two times when entire peloton was OTL but allowed to continue: Pontarlier in 2001 and Montélimar in 2006.

I haven't checked but something tells me that after 2011 there was an alteration in the rules that said you would lose all points in the sprint competition if you were allowed to continue after having been outside the time limit.

 

[Stelvio]

If he won 3 in a row everyone would say that he has to go for 4, then 5 (and then seek revenge/redemption after losing). When does it end?

Never go for seven.

 

[fbjim]

I haven't checked but something tells me that after 2011 there was an alteration in the rules that said you would lose all points in the sprint competition if you were allowed to continue after having been outside the time limit.

I think it's a percentage, which means riders with more points have more to lose if the grupetto is OTL

 

[roundabout]

I haven't checked but something tells me that after 2011 there was an alteration in the rules that said you would lose all points in the sprint competition if you were allowed to continue after having been outside the time limit.

yep, that's exactly what the 2022 rules say

https://storage-aso.lequipe.fr/ASO/cycling_tdf/reglement-tdf-2022.pdf

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