Tour de France Tour de France 2022: Stage 4 (Dunkerque – Calais, 171.5k)

[Bonimenier]

Van Aert could've duo TT'ed to the finish with Vingegaard and people would still complain he took away 4 boni seconds from Vingegaard. It's starting to get ridiculous.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Van Aert could've duo TT'ed to the finish with Vingegaard and people would still complain he took away 4 boni seconds from Vingegaard. It's starting to get ridiculous.

Now that would have been a flashback to Yates and Chaves on the Etna.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Van Aert could've duo TT'ed to the finish with Vingegaard and people would still complain he took away 4 boni seconds from Vingegaard. It's starting to get ridiculous.

HAH, yes, I thought about that as well. Obviously this was Van Aert's stage after triple 2nd in a row, but people would unironically do that. Its ridicolous, but also quite funny from some posters since its so god damn predictable. Trying to hold generational talents down to work for lesser riders, smh.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

I wouldn't call McNulty, Soler and Hirschi average riders.
There might be doubts about their shape and/or commitment though.

Yeah, the „average rider“ for me rather was Stake Laengen.

Majka is great, in the mountains.

George Bennett has deteriorated a little bit over the last few years/in recent times. Bjerg seems to have or have had problems to arrive at Elite Pro level. McNulty, Soler and Hirschi, in recent times, lacked these 2-5% which are needed to succeed in the top races of the world.

OK, it‘s a solid line-up, but (IMHO) certainly weaker than Jumbo (who even left Dennis at home; with a 100% shape Dennis, Jumbo would be even better…)…

 

[Big Doopie]

Perfect move with jumbo but it will turn down as a terrible move because Pogacar now knows Roglic is not the same as previous years

some of us knew this even at P-N at the start of the year and said so… ;-)

 

[Big Doopie]

Nice team tactics. Plus Wout is in the shape of his life. Bravo!

now wait a sec, he has a bad knee remember?

 

[Ripper]

Jumbo don't fatigue though, they are always in peak form every race day for 9 months, I think the traditional 3 or 4 peaks of form just don't apply to any of their main riders.

Like Sky ... 95% peak all year long ...

 

[Ripper]

Perfect move with jumbo but it will turn down as a terrible move because Pogacar now knows Roglic is not the same as previous years

Meh. I think Roglic and Vingegaard had their marks to track. And the Dauphine gave more of an indication of where Roglic is. Either he is truly behind, or his peak will be in week 3 (perhaps he has learned from previous races?)

 

[Aimar16]

We couldn't see anything from the run-up to the climb. First the monument with the peloton far away and then 200m of Perez after the small sharp turns. After the last corner we only saw 5 jumbo's and 3 Ineos. And next Wout to the top. No one else was in the picture. Pogi looked good, also Sagan at the front.
Alpecin was behind Jumbo all the time and Mathieu was only the 4th from his team at the top.
Curious if something happened in the corners.

I think Martinez and Thomas sat up when they saw Roglic not following van Aert. After them came Pogacar and Bardet + someone else, later Sagan at the head of a larger group.

 

[Jungle Cycle]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1544363187323248640

View: https://twitter.com/AlbertoBettiol/status/1544363187323248640

 

[Max Rockatansky]

Wout & Laporte will murder UAE tomorrow. Things will be difficult for Pogacar with that shitty team after the pavés.

 

[YavorD]

Why are some people judging too fast? Jumbo's tactics, WVA loyalty etc. Let's wait and see in Paris, shall we?
I mean, what was to gain this stage? 10-15 seconds at best. They wont decide the Tour. What if giving some freedom to WVA makes him do a Boom and this way Vin/Rog gains 2 minutes on Pog tomorrow or in some of the other stages? What if Pog wins the Tour by 3 minutes, Philipsen wins the stage today and WVA doesn't win a stage this tour? It was nothing much to gain today GC wise, not like Pog was minute behinf Vingegaard.


Besides, you have to keep (one of) your star riders happy.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Mezgec said it's a good thing van Aert has a knee injury. Otherwise he would have put a minute into them.

 

[Oldermanish]

Thomas getting droped is not a good sign for Ineos. In fact for the entire time today was a debacle. They forced the pase with Jumbo, only to get dropped one by one.

Jumbo absolutely used Ineos and then abused them. Jonas sitting on Yates was ideal and they had enough controlling power to help Wout maintain his gap. If Jonas or Primoz had gone everyone would have chased. As it was Ineos tried/failed and a few sprinter hopefuls like QS attempted but didn't have a collective effort. Great win for WvA and Jumbo.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Wout & Laporte will murder UAE tomorrow. Things will be difficult for Pogacar with that shitty team after the pavés.

Pogacar is smart. His performative prowess is matched by an uncanny tactical race reading. The boy will just stick to the last JV rider.

 

[JosefK]

Pogacar is smart. His performative prowess is matched by an uncanny tactical race reading. The boy will just stick to the last JV rider.

Yes, I think Pogi isn't worried, today. He will need to be very attentive tomorrow, though.

 

[RobertCrawley]

DP forums be like...

"Good lord this race is boring!"
"The course designers should be locked up!"
"This is the worst Tour in years!"
"Why is no one doing anything?!!"

Generational talent in Yellow Jersey attacks, drops the entire field, solos 10k to win in spectacular fashion...

"What an idiot! This team is so stupid"

FFS.

I follow a TV show and forum where people write about how much they hate the show. I wonder why they watch. Shouldn't they be doing something they enjoy? Very strange behavior.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1544363187323248640

View: https://twitter.com/AlbertoBettiol/status/1544363187323248640

Hilarious! He's always been a good sport about it.

 

[memyselfandI]

Three fastest on the last climb based on Strava were WvA, Pogi and Bardet, resulting something like VAM 2506-2343 m/h....Bang!

 

[Sciatic]

Why are some people judging too fast? Jumbo's tactics, WVA loyalty etc. Let's wait and see in Paris, shall we?
I mean, what was to gain this stage? 10-15 seconds at best. They wont decide the Tour. What if giving some freedom to WVA makes him do a Boom and this way Vin/Rog gains 2 minutes on Pog tomorrow or in some of the other stages? What if Pog wins the Tour by 3 minutes, Philipsen wins the stage today and WVA doesn't win a stage this tour? It was nothing much to gain today GC wise, not like Pog was minute behinf Vingegaard.


Besides, you have to keep (one of) your star riders happy.

We don’t even need to wait that long . . . After tomorrow and then after the 3 pretty girls we will have a much better idea of the shape the race might take. I mentioned this in another recent race—it’s like fans at pro golf tourney who want to be the first to shout “IN THE HOLE” before anyone else, even though they have no idea where that particular shot is going.

 

[red_flanders]

We don’t even need to wait that long . . . After tomorrow and then after the 3 pretty girls we will have a much better idea of the shape the race might take. I mentioned this in another recent race—it’s like fans at pro golf tourney who want to be the first to shout “IN THE HOLE” before anyone else, even though they have no idea where that particular shot is going.

Nailed it.

 

[Extinction]

Jumbo absolutely used Ineos and then abused them. Jonas sitting on Yates was ideal and they had enough controlling power to help Wout maintain his gap. If Jonas or Primoz had gone everyone would have chased. As it was Ineos tried/failed and a few sprinter hopefuls like QS attempted but didn't have a collective effort. Great win for WvA and Jumbo.

Exactly, but let's see if Jumbo can duplicate tomorrow. Wout isn't riding for GC, so tomorrow he should go full gas again to make things difficult for Ineos and Pogacar. But will he have the legs after today? Then MvdP should go balistic tomorrow and I bet Pogacar will be with him.

 

[saunaking]

Very strange tactics by JV unless it wasn't planned. One can well argue that Wout is pointless getting tired to be a late support for Roglic or Vingo.

WiNNinG sTagEs at thE TOuR is PoiNTleSS!!!!

 

[Earns1985]

I think Martinez and Thomas sat up when they saw Roglic not following van Aert. After them came Pogacar and Bardet + someone else, later Sagan at the head of a larger group.

Someone else was Vlasov, I think..

 

[saunaking]

If i am Jumbo im going to question if i can trust wout to wait for Jonas and Roglic and be a team player tomorrow. honestly he rode his own show last year also the stage roglic crashed. He wins stages and brings awarnes for the sponsors but for the team cohesion i would question how good it is.

Van Aer

Wout should have waited for Vingegaard and yates

He would ahve still won and Vinge could have gotten time back on Pog

Poor tactics imo

At the end it will be Pog v Vinge for yellow

Yes the 4 seconds they POSSIBLY could have gained would have been worth it
not only would the sprinter teams be working but helped by the gc teams too

 

[RobertCrawley]

WiNNinG sTagEs at thE TOuR is PoiNTleSS!!!!

Sponsors are really angry when their name is plastered over every sports page in the cycling world.