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Tour de France Tour de France 2022: Stage 7 (Tomblaine – La Super Planche des Belles Filles, 176.3k)

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Thomas extremely strong on a climb that should suit him the least.

I'm now hoping for a good final result for Bardet.
He tends to shine in long climbs so I am also hopefull.
In the Giro prior to his DNF/DNS, he was on par with Hindley/Carapaz and Landa.
If JV and Pog do not go after him when he goes on a climb or in a descent, he may well podium, or at least top 5.
 
I don't understand this complaint about repeated climbs. It's the Tour de France. That's what you get. It's like people complaining that that they have to watch guys pedal their bikes.
At least with other climbs they can use them in different ways, the only difference in this one is adding the gravel bit on the end which actually makes it worse.
What was Jumbo doing by not using Kuss to make the stage harder for Jonas?
I see you haven't seen Jumbo at any point in the last 2 years, allow me to fill you in...
With the original finish-line, it's a good climb that is worth being excited for. It has been overused, but it has still delivered every single time. 2012, 2014, 2017 & 2020 were all quite good for such a climb.

The gimmick gravel section significantly worsens it. Now it's all about timing the effort of the last 500 m of the climb. Sad for a good 1st category climb to be reduced to that.
This. Only without the "it's a good climb that is worth being excited for" bit. It's an OK climb without the gravel bit, but in 10 years it's caught up with the amount of uses Hautacam (introduced 1994) has had and is only just behind Angliru (introduced 1999) and Zoncolan (introduced 2003) - and been used repeatedly in other races too.

As a middle of week 1 kind of climb, it's fine, like when Aru won. It's like a tamer Peña Cabarga. But not every year. And certainly not every year including a gimmick section that turns it into a glorified sprint.
So what? That doesn't make it forum doctrine.
I guess in toby's mind, if I didn't say PDBF was overused, nobody else would have noticed?
 
Reminds me of the movie Gladiator, where the old man tells Maximus (after quickly slaughtering everyone) that he needs to win the crowd to win his freedom.

This is so boring. Not winning the crowd at all.

What do you want him to do actually? Cease to exist? I think he's just being there like all other riders, he just happenn to have the capacity to win the Tour, and even that, it's not a given that he always will.
 
They can add Chevrères like they did in 2014 and 2019.
Oh yes, a "cat.1" climb more generous than some of the Vuelta's!!!

I rag on Chevrères more because of the overcategorisation than anything else though, it's fine. Doesn't really impact the racing in terms of changing the way people race PDBF, but does mean they're hitting it with less recovery time so can improve the racing on PDBF for sure. Regular PDBF should probably be a cat.2 for my money, let alone Chevrères.

And so should Cordal, Minas and Peña Cabarga.
 
Oh yes, a "cat.1" climb more generous than some of the Vuelta's!!!

I rag on Chevrères more because of the overcategorisation than anything else though, it's fine. Doesn't really impact the racing in terms of changing the way people race PDBF, but does mean they're hitting it with less recovery time so can improve the racing on PDBF for sure. Regular PDBF should probably be a cat.2 for my money, let alone Chevrères.

And so should Cordal, Minas and Peña Cabarga.
By the equation of length times average gradient to the power of two, it scores 426 without the extra km. So you either need to penalise its low altitude or revise the scale completely.
 

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