Tour de France Tour de France 2022: Stage 7 (Tomblaine – La Super Planche des Belles Filles, 176.3k)

[inri2000]

It happens all the time. For instance, if a rider helps another in a breakaway to gain time in the GC, he's often given the stage.

Of course it can happen in specific circumstances, but if there where gifts with bonus seconds involved when riders are within 30 seconds of each other it would seem silly to me, but not ruling out that it happened of course.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Unpopular opinion but I think that gravel section is a great addition to a great climb

Yep. There's no objective measure. It's a question of taste.

À chacun son goût.

 

[Netserk]

I didn't watch before the 90's

So?

When was this "era of gifting stages"?

The reason I ask you this is because there were bonus seconds on mountain stages for several decades until 2008. Did this era you are talking about only start after that?

EDIT: It was also only after the re-introduction that they for a while were only available on some stages and not others. https://www.velonews.com/events/tou...s-time-bonuses-reshuffles-points-competition/

 

[Potomac]

This climb can host a finish every year.

 

[inri2000]

So?

When was this "era of gifting stages"?

The reason I ask you this is because there were bonus seconds on mountain stages for several decades until 2008. Did this era you are talking about only start after that?

Are you going to provide an example of a rider gifting bonus seconds to a close GC rival? Otherwise this is a bit pointless. If Pogacar had gifed seconds to Jonas today it would either be stupid or extremely disrespectful, completely different situation if there were no bonuses involved

 

[topcat]

Update: I was forced into a bike ride today. (I had to pick up the car, the wife's away and I had no lift or ride as they'd say in the states. There's a drought here, 28 degrees and suffocating.) During today's stage I was suffering over a hilly 26 km course. My ego got the better of me and I attacked on the mur, cracked at the top and then recovered and powered my way to the finish. It was the stomp of all stomps.
Hopefully I won't have to ride a bike for another 15 years. Or I might continue stomping to give the Roglic fans someone to cheer for.
Planche des belles filles my ass. West Cork is where it's at.

 

[Netserk]

Are you going to provide an example of a rider gifting bonus seconds to a close GC rival? Otherwise this is a bit pointless. If Pogacar had gifed seconds to Jonas today it would either be stupid or extremely disrespectful, completely different situation if there were no bonuses involved

What statement have I made that would need such an example? This is the statement of yours that I responded to:

the era of gifting stages didn't have bonus seconds available on mountain stages.

Can you provide an example of a rider gifting a stage in the Tour on a mountain stage where there weren't bonus seconds for the winner (but where there were so on flat stages)?

 

[Lequack]

 

[RobertCrawley]

What statement have I made that would need such an example? This is the statement of yours that I responded to:


Can you provide an example of a rider gifting a stage in the Tour on a mountain stage where there weren't bonus seconds for the winner (but where there were so on flat stages)?

Didn't Armstrong let up and let Pantani cross first? Didn't Hinault allow LeMond to cross first on one stage? I don't know if there were bonus seconds on the flat stages of these tours.

 

[perico]

So?

When was this "era of gifting stages"?

The reason I ask you this is because there were bonus seconds on mountain stages for several decades until 2008. Did this era you are talking about only start after that?

EDIT: It was also only after the re-introduction that they for a while were only available on some stages and not others. https://www.velonews.com/events/tou...s-time-bonuses-reshuffles-points-competition/

The “no gifts” meme is an Armstrong joke, referring to the 2004 stage when he outsprinted Kloden and told Floyd to “ride like he stole something.”

 

[Netserk]

Didn't Armstrong let up and let Pantani cross first? Didn't Hinault allow LeMond to cross first on one stage? I don't know if there were bonus seconds on the flat stages of these tours.

There were also bonus seconds on the mountain stages in your examples.

 

[inri2000]

What statement have I made that would need such an example? This is the statement of yours that I responded to:


Can you provide an example of a rider gifting a stage in the Tour on a mountain stage where there weren't bonus seconds for the winner (but where there were so on flat stages)?

Not interested in pedantry, I explained what I meant by my statement. Enjoy your Friday.

 

[inri2000]

Didn't Armstrong let up and let Pantani cross first? Didn't Hinault allow LeMond to cross first on one stage? I don't know if there were bonus seconds on the flat stages of these tours.

Plenty of examples from the 90's yeah, whether the flat stages had bonus seconds or not is irrevelevant to the scenario of today

 

[Lequack]

Adam Yates after the stage

 

[inri2000]

Contador gifts stage win to Schleck

Alberto Contador let rival Andy Schleck win the Tour de France's showpiece stage at the top of the fog-covered Tourmalet on Thursday in the knowledge he had a firm grip on his third title.

www.reuters.com

 

[Netserk]

Plenty of examples from the 90's yeah, whether the flat stages had bonus seconds or not is irrevelevant to the scenario of today

There were bonus seconds on all mountain stages in the 90's. If that was the era you referred to, then you made a false statement. It's not semantics to point that out.

Does it hurt your pride, or why are you unable to just admit that you got it wrong when someone points it out?

 

[Netserk]

Not interested in pedantry, I explained what I meant by my statement. Enjoy your Friday.

You never at any point made an attempt to answer when this era was.

 

[Lequack]

Roglic looked happy on the way down

Interwiew. He says he has pain in the back, but he's happy.

Gehavende Roglic bekijkt Tour dag per dag: 'Blij om weer een etappe te finishen'

Primoz Roglic kwam in de vijfde etappe hard ten val en ondervindt daar nog altijd hinder van.

nos.nl

 

[Eeslliw]

He says he has pain in the back, but he's happy.

Lol, yea that can be only Roglic.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Roglic looked happy on the way down

Interwiew. He says he has pain in the back, but he's happy.

Gehavende Roglic bekijkt Tour dag per dag: 'Blij om weer een etappe te finishen'

Primoz Roglic kwam in de vijfde etappe hard ten val en ondervindt daar nog altijd hinder van.

nos.nl

Glad Rogla is doing all right and is hanging in there. However, I just can't with Jumbo's jerseys, which is why they need to hold on to (or at least strive for) the yellow one. The combination of 80's acid wash and 60's tie-dye... it looks like somebody didn't separate their laundry and in addition added bleach to whatever else they threw into the washer. Almost kinda sounds like what Jumbo is doing on the road right now?

Anyhoo, go Primoz!

 

[danielovichdk2]

Ahah, the spin is already there Ignorance is a bliss.

I hope Roglic either leaves the Tour or goes down with a banger and rides for himself like the champion he is and not for some anonymous Dane. All the sick Jumbo tactics should put to the wall.

What happened today ?

Ah yes you're right, pogi won and vingegaard showed he is in better form.

Keep dreaming

 

[Big Doopie]

Contador gifts stage win to Schleck

Alberto Contador let rival Andy Schleck win the Tour de France's showpiece stage at the top of the fog-covered Tourmalet on Thursday in the knowledge he had a firm grip on his third title.

www.reuters.com

lol. gifted him that TDF as well.

 

[Lequack]

Roglic still needs to lose 1 minute to do the Froome on Finestre patented move.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Roglic still needs to lose 1 minute to do the Froome on Finestre patented move.

Shouldn't Roglic be getting over bilharzia first before he challenges that move? (Sorry if my dates are wrong, not exactly sure when Froome had tackled bilharzia successfully the first time around.)

 

[Rackham]

Shouldn't Roglic be getting over bilharzia first before he challenges that move? (Sorry if my dates are wrong, not exactly sure when Froome had tackled bilharzia successfully the first time around.)

Roglic caught baleofhayzia on Wednesday, so he's good to go.