Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 12: Roanne - Belleville-en-Beaujolais, 168.8k

[Boehmand]

Pogi clearly underperforming on that front for UAE, that’s why he had to sprint!

In his case, I just think he can't help it, when he sees a finish line

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Bumped in with 60k to go - thanks to Ion for bringing the thrills. It's Ioneos' Tour!

 

[frisenfruitig]

Great stage, great Tour (except for the flat stages). Who would have thought neither WVA or MVDP would win a stage. I wouldn't have bet on that

 

[RobertCrawley]

It's been a wonderful tour for the Pays Basque for many reasons.

 

[HelloDolly]

Love if Victor Campernats could win a stage

Such a fighter...tough as nails

 

[Elos Anjos]

I'm comfortable with a Turkish person bringing and waving a Turkish flag. Seems fine. Better than people waving those give-away Japanese-ish flags in riders' faces.

Clearly you need glasses. It looks like a Japanese flag but it's just a red heart. And there is no logical relation between the appearance of a waving flag and that same flag being waved in rider's faces.

Also, waving a Turkish flag just because it's Turkish and has no relation with the peloton is obnoxious.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

The real question is why didn’t Kasper A win this stage

The other day I stated he still misses the last 15% to be pre-Tour de Suisse '22-crash.
Changed my mind, however - he's at least 30% from his former pinnacle shape.

 

[gunara]

The younger Izaguirre has always had a lot of class on the bike. Happy for him.

And he can be happy with his palmares when he retires, a rider who I think got the best out of his potentials. Although there was a brief time when he's worryingly seemed to get drawn into GT placing which I never thought would work for him.

 

[dgodave]

Froome is hugely popular in Japan (go figure!), so that was kick-back for when Ineos discarded Froome at his peak.

Yes Im sure youre exactly right.

I did bike tour Japan a few years ago. Didnt notice the Froome love, but maybe he's not as big in Kyushu, where I did all my riding.

 

[movingtarget]

Great win by Izagirre. Cofidis will be beside themselves.

 

[movingtarget]

This Cofidis TDF domination is getting predictable

The stars have aligned............

 

[StryderHells]

I'd be amazed if they have anything like that sort of budget anymore. Last year, Carapaz and Yates went. This year Rodriguez, Hart, Tullet, possibly De Plus and Sivakov as well. No big signings in three years, unless you count Pidcock?

I post this because I’m bored and I know you love Dolly

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxUSsFXYo4

 

[Salvarani]

If a break goes with no one important in it... they will get +10 minutes.

 

[saunaking]

now that Cofidis is smashing it, which is the forlorn team that hasnt won a tour stage in forever?

 

[glassmoon]

How is Caleb doing limit wise?

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

Great win by Izaguirre and really fun stage. Jorgensson gettin close once again. i hope i can win one before the end.

 

[theyoungest]

Benoot gets dropped before the Colombier tomorrow

Yes, it was vital that Benoot save himself for the Colombier...

He was one of the guys tasked with making sure the break went. He succeeded. That's probably more than he could do on a tactically easier stage like tomorrow's.

 

[Salvarani]

Gaudu, Pinot, Bardet and Martin in a close battle for best frenchman in the race.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Yes, it was vital that Benoot save himself for the Colombier...

He was one of the guys tasked with making sure the break went. He succeeded. That's probably more than he could do on a tactically easier stage like tomorrow's.

Was referring more to him burying himself for 4th at the end

 

[theyoungest]

Was referring more to him burying himself for 4th at the end

Yeah, well, he's not a winner, what can you say. He makes all the wrong choices. A kind of Wout van Aert

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

huh, VDP got further than I thought in this stage. But that last climb was always gonna be too hard. He'd need a minute at least and he only had 20 seconds. Good attempt.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Van der Poel is still dumb as rocks.

bad take. This was literally his only chance

 

[postmanhat]

I post this because I’m bored and I know you love Dolly

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxUSsFXYo4

True. Though Dolly would have learnt what pain really was if she heard our version of Jolene at the ukulele club last night.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Basques killing it in the medium mountain stages just a week and a half too late.

 

[postmanhat]

Most sources list Ineos as having the highest budget, though I imagine UAE may have more funds than are listed. I imagine Ineos have fat contracts for their existing riders, which probably explains why they're having to let a lot go. Bernal and Thomas must be earning a lot, and they're supposedly looking to make a big move for Remco.

That does seem to be the accepted wisdom, but just can't see it anymore. The numbers don't add up. They're going to have a very threadbare GC team next year at this rate and don't believe the Remco rumours. Bad move for the team and the rider.