Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 13: Châtillon-sur-Chalaronne - Grand Colombier, 137.8k

[ManicJack]

Danish broadcast debating Tour prize money.

The Tour winner gets € 500,000 after riding 21 stages.
The Wimbledon winner gets € 2,750,000 after playing 7 matches
The US Open winner gets € 3,200,000 after playing 4 rounds

Apples to oranges from a business stand point.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Claus Vingegaard just told NBC that this stage does not set up well for his son Jonas to attack.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

NBC just interviewed Claus Vingegaard, Jonas’s dad, and I can see where he gets his sense of humbleness from.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Danish broadcast debating Tour prize money.

The Tour winner gets € 500,000 after riding 21 stages.
The Wimbledon winner gets € 2,750,000 after playing 7 matches
The US Open winner gets € 3,200,000 after playing 4 rounds

I got zero money for surviving watching the Giro this year. Life isn't fair.

 

[glassmoon]

Guess I’ve just never noticed before, he makes Pinot look like a master

Tibo actually got better after intensive work on the problem... Latour sadly did not.

 

[Boehmand]

No wonder the Hamlet guy.

Who's the Hamlet guy?

 

[RobertCrawley]

NBC just interviewed Claus Vingegaard, Jonas’s dad, and I can see where he gets his sense of humbleness from.

He seems like a super nice guy, almost as nice as Neilson.

 

[gregrowlerson]

I got zero money for surviving watching the Giro this year. Life isn't fair.

And time is money.

 

[Boehmand]

Apples to oranges from a business stand point.

Of course it is, but I'd venture a guess that both Wimbledon and the US Open has lower broadcast revenue than Tour de France.

 

[Izzyeviel]

I got zero money for surviving watching the Giro this year. Life isn't fair.

you just know there's going to be non-slovenians posting on here about how much better the Giro was than the tour..

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Danish broadcast debating Tour prize money.

The Tour winner gets € 500,000 after riding 21 stages
The Wimbledon winner gets € 2,750,000 after playing 7 matches
The US Open winner gets € 3,200,000 after playing 4 rounds

The US Open like in Golf or in Tennis, because the US Open winner in Tennis also plays 7 matches.

 

[Boehmand]

The US Open like in Golf or in Tennis, because the US Open winner in Tennis also plays 7 matches.

Golf, it's why it says "rounds"

 

[SafeBet]

Gap is getting to a point where I'm giving the break a chance if someone up front is feeling super.

 

[RobertCrawley]

The US Open like in Golf or in Tennis, because the US Open winner in Tennis also plays 7 matches.

This year, it was 3.6 million/€3,202,783.20 for the US Open golf champion.

 

[Boehmand]

Gap is getting to a point where I'm giving the break a chance if someone up front is feeling super.

I think the climb being hardest at the start means that the break needs more, because UAE will drill it as soon as they hit the slopes.

If they don't, I'd think Pogacar was on a bad day.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Latour needs to start doing reverse van der poel tactic, attacking the climbs to give himself time to drop back on the descents

 

[Didinho]

Abandon Ewan.

 

[dazaau]

Gap is getting to a point where I'm giving the break a chance if someone up front is feeling super.

Send weird they kept it so close to just let it balloon out so quickly. Can anyone in the front group climb?

 

[RobertCrawley]

Abandon Ewan.

Oh no!!

 

[Boehmand]

Hindley and Pidcock saying they have never ridden the climb before, which seems like poor preparation to me.

 

[Aimar16]

Danish broadcast debating Tour prize money.

The Tour winner gets € 500,000 after riding 21 stages
The Wimbledon winner gets € 2,750,000 after playing 7 matches
The US Open winner gets € 3,200,000 after playing 4 rounds

Cycling is a team sport and the prize money is split between the 8 teammates, they get salaries and the team pays for the hotel and stuff like that. Tennis is an individual sport and there are no guaranteed salaries, but no doubt the women tennis players are massively overpaid...

 

[RobertCrawley]

Nice interview today in L'Equipe with LeMond about Le Professeur, Laurent Fignon. LeMond said that the reason he won by 8 seconds in 1989 was the triathlete aerobars on his bike. He also said that Fignon was the kind of rider who needed an enemy to be successful. That's certainly not the case today with Jonas or Pogi. They seem to be respectful competitors.

 

[Gigs_98]

I don't have the time to elaborate now. But I think it's quite evident that there is a correlation between shorter stages and exciting racing. Denying that is just being contrarian.

I am right and you are wrong and whoever disagrees is stupid.

Like, I'm far from being the biggest supporter of long stages on this forum, but phrasing this debate like that is just nonsensical. I still think that in a vacuum neither short nor long stages are the one correct way to go and the best way to design your race is a good mixture of both.

I also have the feeling that the newest wave of "long stages bad" has formed during the Giro where far and beyond the most disappointing mountain stage was extremely short. Meanwhile the best mountain stage of the Giro was probably the Monte Bondone stage which was also the only big Alps stage over 200km. And again I'm not saying this is because long stages are better. These things just wary from gt to gt almost as if there is no correlation at all.

 

[Boehmand]

Cycling is a team sport and the prize money is split between the 8 teammates, they get salaries and the team pays for the hotel and stuff like that. Tennis is an individual sport and there are no guaranteed salaries, but no doubt the women tennis players are massively overpaid...

I get all the dynamics of the sports, but that is not the point.

The point is the organiser keeping more of the revenue to themselves, instead of sharing it with the athletes.

Anyway, climb starting so enough of the random debates

 

[DrSahl]

Pogacar will take atleast 20 secounds on Vingegaard today if not more and thus get the Yellow Jersey.
I think he will keep it for the rest of the tour after that. But it only takes one bad day and it can switch again.

But this stage really is a Pogacar stage.