Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 17: Saint-Gervais Mont Blanc - Courchevel, 165.7k

[Salvarani]

Bring on San Sebastian and the Canadian Classics

Yeah, real racing and races casuals dont care about.

 

[HelloDolly]

must be why.
as silly as that seems.

Can only think Jonas wants to blitz the stage?

but ridiculous to drop Van Aert ...unless he is not feeling good today

 

[Red Rick]

Jumbo going nuts is Kuss orders, he knows he has to snailpace again when hes roding for Primoz coming the Vuelta

 

[Didinho]

Bring on San Sebastian and the Canadian Classics

Yeah I need a Remco 50km solo to get over this.

 

[Trofonios]

Well, in some sense it's understandable, this was the stage TJV had their eyes on.

 

[RobertCrawley]

That bike race is on my birthday. A Pinot win would be a nice present...

Pog doesn't need to make it all up tomorrow, but if he can't get a big chunk back, game over. Vingo was amazing today, I can't see Pogacar turn the tide. But he'll try. The best spot would be with 4-5 km to go. How much does he still have in the tank, though?

Joyeux anniversaire!

 

[Trofonios]

TJV left van Aert behind. WTF?

 

[Peter von]

Can only think Jonas wants to blitz the stage?

but ridiculous to drop Van Aert ...unless he is not feeling good today

maybe, but it seemed more panicky to me, for a while only Baarle and Vingegaard was at the front. Also doesn't seem they are in a hurry after they caught back up.

and yeah if you want the stage win, you burn through your doms from worst to best and when Kuss is done Jonas drops the hammer and leaves everyone in the dust, or Pogi clings on and beats him in the sprint.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

TJV left van Aert behind. WTF?

For real, if true that would be the sign for Pogacar to try something more risky. At least my hopefull mind is telling me that.

 

[Squire]

I don't think so, I think they wanted to steamroll this stage for a year now and this is what they are going to do.

I have a feeling this is the case.

 

[HelloDolly]

I guess they are still worried about Pog and Saturday

Vinge wants to kill the race today

 

[Berniece]

I don't see a reason for Jumbo to change tactics just because they are almost 2min ahead now. If you believe this was the stage to actually crack Pogacar, then go for it.

 

[Trofonios]

TJV is trolling Pog. He must be wondering what is going on.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Honestly if they want to ride for Kuss then they should just let him free on the final climb, he's insane at altitude and monster climbs. Was very good here in 2020.

 

[Peter von]

I guess they are still worried about Pog and Saturday

Vinge wants to kill the race today

only a fool isn't worried about Pog full stop.

But at the same time if Kuss is their only dom left for the last 80 k, then there is no one to get bottles for Vingegaard.

I don't see a reason for Jumbo to change tactics just because they are almost 2min ahead now. If you believe this was the stage to actually crack Pogacar, then go for it.

maybe but if you are already burning Benoot on the first climb, you burn through Kuss long before Loze get's steep.

 

[Peyroteo94]

People seems to forget yesterday Vingegaard murdered Pogi. Can't really see where today will be different from yesterday. A massacre is going to happen again.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

People seems to forget yesterday Vingegaard murdered Pogi. Can't really see where today will be different from yesterday. A massacre is going to happen again.

This could literally be a post from stage 6. People don't learn and apparently neither do Jumbo.

 

[Berniece]

maybe but if you are already burning Benoot on the first climb, you burn through Kuss long before Loze get's steep.

I don't think that matters, just like last year set the pace very high, and Vingegaard will ride the last 20-25km solo

 

[RobertCrawley]

Or a Netflix script

Can't wait for the Netflix series on this race.

 

[Lequack]

Pog crashed today, that makes a comeback even less likely.

 

[bizzmane89]

Jumbo tries to kill Pogocar for next year, too. But on a seroious note, they obviously ride for Kuss Top5

 

[ppanther92]

Mühlberger proving me right that he has great legs. But seriously - whats wrong with Jumbo? Vingegaard wants the stage winner pic in yellow on the queen stage or what are they doing?

 

[Didinho]

Now they’re letting this bigger group go. It was all about Majka it seems.

Edit: even with Bilbao now in front?

 

[RobertCrawley]

Jumbo... you no nice!

Powless would refuse to join this mean team.

 

[Gargamel35]

Pogačar crashed at the start of the stage anyway. JV going all in to kill jim. This one is over.