Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 19: Moirans-en-Montagne - Poligny, 172.8k

[IndianCyclist]

If anyone works with MVDP and Philipsen they are idiots.

They are idiots

 

[Samamba]

UNO X performance is raising a lot of questions. Completely burrying their team to catch Campenaerts and then Tiller won't even be close to top 10.

 

[DaveJones2]

Now or never for the group at 20 secs

 

[Didinho]

It’s over me thinks. Kasper with the double or Mohoric.

 

[RobertCrawley]

They are idiots

They figure they can take a flyer at the end ahead of the sprinters.

 

[proffate]

maybe ben oconnor should target the classics rather than constantly disappointing in GTs

 

[RedheadDane]

Zimmermann is the only one in the chase group without at least one GT stage win.
Yet!

 

[dobrien]

It’s over me thinks. Kasper with the double or Mohoric.

Ben will attack for the most unlikely win of the Tour while Kasper and Matej look at each other. A guy can dream, right?

 

[DaveJones2]

It’s over me thinks. Kasper with the double or Mohoric.

Agreed. Philipsens presence shutting that down for sure.

 

[HelloDolly]

Almost all the best classic riders on show today

Could be anyone

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

2nd group is stacked but they're still losing time. A bit surprising.

 

[Peter von]

If anyone works with MVDP and Philipsen they are idiots.

They need help to catch those guys. With a bit of luck MVP launches Phillipsen way to soon to try and catch them and one of the others can pass JP when he gasses out with 100 m to go.

 

[glassmoon]

Nope... not gonna catch them...

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Wow, 15K to go. A quick day.

Sprinters trying to make sure they don't miss the break today, apparently some were upset yesterday. At this rate they might miss it again though, at 9km to go they appear to be losing time.

 

[Volderke]

Asgreen for the double

 

[ppanther92]

If anyone works with MVDP and Philipsen they are idiots.

If you don't chase, your chances for the win are zero, if you chase them at least non-zero.

But they anyway seem to hold on.

 

[Peter von]

2nd group is stacked but they're still losing time. A bit surprising.

Yeah. Some of them are in that group because they didn’t have the legs, the non-Alpecin dudes are holding back trying to get MVP to close the gap himself because they need something left to beat Phillipsen

 

[Bolder]

2nd group is stacked but they're still losing time. A bit surprising.

Philipsen is your answer. Everyone is having second thoughts about dragging him to the line, as well they should...

 

[HelloDolly]

Anyone but Philipsen as he has won enough

Mayeb a team that has not won a stage

 

[Danskebjerge]

UNO X performance is raising a lot of questions. Completely burrying their team to catch Campenaerts and then Tiller won't even be close to top 10.

Exactly. It looked weird already 50 km into the stage.

It contradicts the way they approached the race on earlier stages when they went for results instead of just exposure. But I guess they miss that one strong one-day-classic kind of rider.

 

[DaveJones2]

I've never understood the willingness of so many riders to be content riding for 2nd place? Is there decent prize money for a place on the podium? Otherwise what exactly is the point - who cares about a second place, GT stage or otherwise?

 

[SafeBet]

Nope... not gonna catch them...

Depends on Mohoric and O'Connor tactics in the final kms. If they stop working with Asgreen and the chasing group is still in striking distance it might get close.

 

[Sciatic]

I think MVDP could cut most of the gap with a big surge at the end, bringing Phillipsen with him.

 

[dgodave]

Are individual stage wins getting more important on average than they used to be historically? It seems that way.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Pedersen should play the game now and not take any pulls.