- Jul 10, 2014
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- Oct 2, 2020
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A rider as great as Remco (and he is a great rider, for sure) has only finished one of three grand tours attempted. Roglic has DNF'd a few. So if Skjelmose hangs in there and gets into a break or two later on, that would still be very good. Crashing is a game-changer, unfortunately.Oh, finished the Giro as 40th last year. Look, exactly rhe range for future greatness as indicated by my examples
- Mar 13, 2015
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all the posts on Pog v Vinge and who will win
I dont care which one wins as long as we have a battle and I think we will
However I think the Pog may have the upper hand now and the impetus is with him...just slightly as he is gaining time and his form maybe improving
But still a long long way to go
I dont care which one wins as long as we have a battle and I think we will
However I think the Pog may have the upper hand now and the impetus is with him...just slightly as he is gaining time and his form maybe improving
But still a long long way to go
it's clearly a different race from last year, i don't think Pogacar dropped Vingegaard a single time in 2022, getting the closest on Spandelles.
I think they're pretty clearly evenly matched here
I think they're pretty clearly evenly matched here
- Jul 14, 2022
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POGI taking time on Vingo on a stage on which he wasnt feeling that well ( his face showed more suffering than usual) and also with an injured wrist tells me that his fitness levels are getting better by day. I dont see Jonas winning this one , he doesnt have Primoz baiting Pogi for him anymore.
- Mar 11, 2009
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Kuss also has the Giro in his legs. I’m shocked he’s doing this well considering that he usually is really inconsistent in the Vuelta with the TDF in his legs.
- Jul 3, 2022
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All the posts that declare who will definitely win are wishful thinking or perhaps an attempts at the dark arts of magical charms. We just have to wait and see.
- Sep 26, 2020
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ASO should consider adding bonus sprints to the rest days.
- Jul 3, 2022
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Or bonus seconds for the best Twitter post on the rest days.
- Sep 26, 2020
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That wouldn't be fair to Vingegaard though.
- Mar 5, 2023
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Oh, finished the Giro as 40th last year. Look, exactly rhe range for future greatness as indicated by my examples
We can agree this is the GT, where he should prove his potential, instead of choosing the groupetto on stage 9.
Kuss has the Giro in his legs already so how long can he maintain the level he is currently riding at. Van Aert rode approximately 100km at the front of the break up multiple mountain passes on Stage 6 so there is nothing wrong with his form. Just not proving extra terrestrial day after day at the minute like he was last year. A very useful satellite rider but hasn't ever produced much as a regular domestique, I don't think he'd be happy playing that role. Plus he may have to depart early if the baby pops out! It's still very finely balanced at this stage but the UAE doms if they are needed, will be fairly well rested in comparision to Jumbo as they have been fairly anonymous in this race to date. They are in a much better position than last year when they were reduced to 3 doms during the final week.
I think overall both teams will be happy where they are placed at the minute but I'd tilt the balance slightly in Pogs favour now. Better to be the hunter than the hunted.
- Jun 30, 2022
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Then make it open to all Social Media. He could make an Instagram post with his plush lions. Or does Vingegaard‘s phone only have one option, calling his wife?
- Oct 1, 2014
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- Dec 6, 2012
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Form trajectories of the main contenders are not usually too unreadable at the Tour. I still can't tell who will win this because it's too close, but when someone say Pog is looking to be peaking at the better point of the race than Vinge, with good arguments, I can believe it. And also vice versa, but maybe takes a stronger argument for it. Most of the readings are fun and deserve some thoughts. If this was a Giro or a Vuelta, all these first half blows that result in that few seconds could hint absolutely nothing for the third week.
- Jul 16, 2015
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Pogačar was cooking himself launching attack after attack last year following the Granon stage (& never managed to properly gap Vinge).
The huge difference now is he can ride defensively to an extent because he only has one wheel to follow & he can tactically rely on simply punching some holes in Vingegaard's lead at the end of a climb, i.e. he needed 3 minutes last year whereas here he needs 17 seconds. Jumbo can't do anything about it either (they can isolate him but that's about it really). I'm also leaning towards the theory Pog was lacking race fitness & paid the price on Marie Blanque. But since then, the pendulum has been swinging in the opposite direction & no one really saw this coming after Wednesday.
Just like in 2020, Pog has the momentum & for the rider in the lead (Vingegaard in this instance) it's going to be a very difficult week 2 to deal with both psychologically & physically, i.e. especially with all the added press commitments the jersey entails.
The huge difference now is he can ride defensively to an extent because he only has one wheel to follow & he can tactically rely on simply punching some holes in Vingegaard's lead at the end of a climb, i.e. he needed 3 minutes last year whereas here he needs 17 seconds. Jumbo can't do anything about it either (they can isolate him but that's about it really). I'm also leaning towards the theory Pog was lacking race fitness & paid the price on Marie Blanque. But since then, the pendulum has been swinging in the opposite direction & no one really saw this coming after Wednesday.
Just like in 2020, Pog has the momentum & for the rider in the lead (Vingegaard in this instance) it's going to be a very difficult week 2 to deal with both psychologically & physically, i.e. especially with all the added press commitments the jersey entails.
- Jul 3, 2022
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- Jul 17, 2021
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But will it make a big difference?
Main two GC racers seem like level above everybody. Pace set by domestiques does not seem to affect them anymore.
- Feb 9, 2013
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He needs to borrow Pog's ice jacket.
- Jul 8, 2023
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- May 5, 2010
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Pretty sure Pogacar has more plush lions than Vingegaard.
- Jun 30, 2022
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Yes, I am not paying attention to podium ceremonies, does the white jersey get them too? Because otherwise Vingegaard might have lions with him, while Pogačar would have to imitate Van Aert or something for the bonus seconds.
- Jun 7, 2011
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Stage 5 I thought it was game over, but since then Pogacar has been stronger than Vingegaard. Is it a case of Pog being better than last year (since Wed) or is it a case of Vingegaard being worse than last year (since Wed) or a bit of both? Pogacar threw the kitchen sink at JV last year and couldn’t drop him once.
I thought it was telling today that JV didn’t even give a token attack when Kuss dropped, he just sort of looked around. I think JV not attacking made Pog think that JV wasn’t on a great day again, something we never saw once last year.
I thought it was telling today that JV didn’t even give a token attack when Kuss dropped, he just sort of looked around. I think JV not attacking made Pog think that JV wasn’t on a great day again, something we never saw once last year.
Meintjes creeping slowly into that top 10 again by just riding around at his own pace
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