Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 9: Saint-Léonard-de-Noblat - Puy de Dôme, 182.4k

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Breakaway will win this. MVDP is suddenly going to find some way to win and celebrate his grandfather
 
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I mean do you think making one acceleration and then riding a steady pace all the way to the top is the best way to drop a rider? I just can't watch that ascent and think Vingegaards focus was entirely on dropping Pogacar. If it was you just don't ride like that.
One the first acceleration - which was in the one headwind part of the Tourmalet - didn't work, he was never dropping him. Stop starting isn't gonna help against Pogacar.

Pacing the first 2/3rds of Tourmalet so slow didn't help either.
 
I will go with Vingegård today. The final climb is likely hard enough to catch the break and I think what happened on stage 5 is a better indicator to what will happen today than stage 6 especially with the hot weather. In my opinion, Jumbo should drill in today as this is one the most favourable climbs for Vingegård due to the several kilometers above 10%.

Still, Pogačar is in good shape so I don‘t expect him to lose more than 30 seconds in stage like this.

Adam Yates should be able to be close to Hindley in a unipuerto stage like this one.
I Vingegaard feels good on the early slopes Puy de Dome he should probably order Kuss to drill it for 1 or 2k on the steep section before doing an attack. If he can't distance Pog within 30-45 seconds back off and let Kuss come back, not making the mistake again to keep pushing like he did on stage 6. Like you say stage 5 might be a better indicator.
 
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View: https://twitter.com/NaichacaCycling/status/1677782246504243200

Check out that wild ass thermonuclear time from Bahamontes in 1959, I wonder how heavy the bikes and equipment were back then, he won't've been full skelator either, probably some insane W/KG.

Bardet only did 16'45 recently too apparently
That shows how on climb does not matter the aero and all the new tech.
Today they will smash it around 10 minutes 😀
 
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The run-up to Dome in today's stage, isn't hard enough for TJV to get rid of all of UAE's help for Pog, and the final climb isn't long enough for a reduction of domistiques to hinder Pog much at all, and Pog loves sharp attacks on any incline, regardless of the prior profile, where Jonas seems to rely on attrition throughout the race to have firtle ground to attack. I think, even with the gradient, Pog has the advantage here in terms of the type of stage, I'm just not sure he can gain that much time, as Jonas will not have the attrition throughout, so he will then also have fresher legs himself. Stalemate.
 
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33 degrees at the foot of Puy De Dome.

The heat may be a factor today, as that is often one of pogacar's few handicaps.

I think Jumbo looks at the weather forecast and think "we have to make it hard today, all day, so that Pogacar arrives at the last climb already gassed".
 
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I'm watching this from the first pedal, because I want to see who is riding the bumper of Prodhome's car in the neutral. It's going to be a fight for position in the neutral zone...and fun to watch the fight to establish a break...then boring for a little while, if a break is allowed to go (which, surely it will, considering how far from Paris they are).
 
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33 degrees at the foot of Puy De Dome.

The heat may be a factor today, as that is often one of pogacar's few handicaps.

I think Jumbo looks at the weather forecast and think "we have to make it hard today, all day, so that Pogacar arrives at the last climb already gassed".

Back in the Sky days Froome would have gone thermonuclear on this final climb.

There would have been precious little action on stages 5 & 6 imo. Incredible how this edition has been raced so far.
 
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With an uphill intermediate sprint with 152 K to go (30.4 K from the start), I think it will be close to impossible to get away before then, and when it goes it will include the "punchier" sprinters.
 
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Uno-X reaching out for it with johannesen today, with 2 helpers in the break.

My candidate in that break is Woods though, the climb is right up his alley ;)