- May 11, 2013
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Logical outcome is Kuss drilling it on the steep part of the last climb then mano a mano between Vinge and Pog. The rest don't matter. Hope Pog can gang on.
- Oct 5, 2009
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It definitely matters how hard the stage have been raced up to entering Clermont-Ferrand proper and final climb.
- Jul 8, 2023
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Vingegaard got some juice this evening! He is ready to push over 7watts per kg 😀
Pogacar also got some fortified pasta so is able to keep up.
Let s enjoy tomorrow! Have a beautiful Sunday!
Pogacar also got some fortified pasta so is able to keep up.
Let s enjoy tomorrow! Have a beautiful Sunday!
- Jul 18, 2020
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Of course they gave pogi a free pull all day. Jumbo should be more flexible and change tatics during the race, when the plan A don't work. Vingegaard should stop pulling on tourmalet after not being able to drop pogacar. In the last climb, he also shouldn't attack and just follow pogacar's wheel. He had an advantage of 52 s to pogacar and hindley was losing more than 2 minutes.
Besides that, Vingegaard was so naive! He shouldn't not be a so nice guy in the bike. He even not asked pogacar to pull on cambasque after his attack. He needs to be more sly.
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Yes but they will be all gone when MVDP and WVA attack 50 km from the finish.All that sounds plausible, except if that 20 man break goes, Skjelmose will be one of them, so will Gall, so will Madouas, so will Johannesen
- May 5, 2010
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- May 11, 2013
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True and it kind of depends how long it will take to form and who will be in the break. Would be nice to see some top 10 guys sneaking in it. But Jumbo should control a showdown between their captain and Pog.
Pogi will win this and grab another 40-50 sec. But I still think vingegaard will be stronger in the third week to secure his second maillot jaune.
- Mar 13, 2015
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Just hope someone other than Vinny and Teddy will win this. Sure I want them to fight it out but I want a win for someone else..most likely from the break
Ciccone, Landa , Pinot , Woods, Haig, Uran, Chaves, Lutsenko,
Simon Geschke, G Martin or SKjelmose ???????????
Lots to chose from
Ciccone, Landa , Pinot , Woods, Haig, Uran, Chaves, Lutsenko,
Simon Geschke, G Martin or SKjelmose ???????????
Lots to chose from
View: https://twitter.com/NaichacaCycling/status/1677782246504243200
Check out that wild ass thermonuclear time from Bahamontes in 1959, I wonder how heavy the bikes and equipment were back then, he won't've been full skelator either, probably some insane W/KG.
Bardet only did 16'45 recently too apparently
Check out that wild ass thermonuclear time from Bahamontes in 1959, I wonder how heavy the bikes and equipment were back then, he won't've been full skelator either, probably some insane W/KG.
Bardet only did 16'45 recently too apparently
- Jun 30, 2022
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That‘s almost 1850 VAM for Bahamontes.
- Oct 5, 2009
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Just another casual Eagle of Toledo day, spreading his wings
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Today (the day of the stage)is actually also Bahamontes‘ 95th birthday, he‘s the oldest living TdF winner.
- Jul 10, 2014
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- May 3, 2010
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To get in the mood I've been watching some of the previous editions. Big names have taken some beatings on this climb.
1988: Danish rider Johnny Weltz wins it from the breakaway. Delgado drops Rooks to expand his lead.
1986: Swiss rider Erich Maechler wins it from the breakaway. LeMond drops Hinault to expand his lead.
1983: Angel Arroyo wins the time trial. Fignon finishes tenth at 1'48", but will go on to win the Tour.
1978: Zoetemelk wins the mountain time trial of 52 km. Hinault, en danseuse in the French jersey, loses time, but will hit back in the flat time trial later.
1976: Zoetemelk and Van Impe attack together. The first wins the stage, but the latter wins the Tour.
1975: Van Impe wins solo. Merckx receives a punch from a spectator and loses the Tour to Thévenet.
1973: Ocaña wins solo and will win the Tour. Van Impe is a close second.
1964: Julio Jimenez wins solo. In a legendary duel Poulidor and Anquetil ride next to each other, touching elbows at one point. Poupou drops his rival, but falls 14 seconds short of yellow.
And then there are the wins of Coppi, Bahamontes and Gimondi, but there aren't many images of those.
1988: Danish rider Johnny Weltz wins it from the breakaway. Delgado drops Rooks to expand his lead.
1986: Swiss rider Erich Maechler wins it from the breakaway. LeMond drops Hinault to expand his lead.
1983: Angel Arroyo wins the time trial. Fignon finishes tenth at 1'48", but will go on to win the Tour.
1978: Zoetemelk wins the mountain time trial of 52 km. Hinault, en danseuse in the French jersey, loses time, but will hit back in the flat time trial later.
1976: Zoetemelk and Van Impe attack together. The first wins the stage, but the latter wins the Tour.
1975: Van Impe wins solo. Merckx receives a punch from a spectator and loses the Tour to Thévenet.
1973: Ocaña wins solo and will win the Tour. Van Impe is a close second.
1964: Julio Jimenez wins solo. In a legendary duel Poulidor and Anquetil ride next to each other, touching elbows at one point. Poupou drops his rival, but falls 14 seconds short of yellow.
And then there are the wins of Coppi, Bahamontes and Gimondi, but there aren't many images of those.
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Danish TV2 said the riders who did Dauphine got to ride Puy De Dome in a practice ride, the day before Dauphine started (organised by the ASO), but nobody else in the peloton has been allowed to ride it, because the road is closed to the public.
So Yates, Majka, Grosschartner, Trentin, Bjerg and Laengen have done the climb, but Pogacar and Soler have never been on it before.
On Jumbo Vingegaard, Benoot, Laporte, Van Baarle and Van Hooydonck have done the climb, but Kuss, Kelderman and Van Aert have never been on it.
So Yates, Majka, Grosschartner, Trentin, Bjerg and Laengen have done the climb, but Pogacar and Soler have never been on it before.
On Jumbo Vingegaard, Benoot, Laporte, Van Baarle and Van Hooydonck have done the climb, but Kuss, Kelderman and Van Aert have never been on it.
- Mar 5, 2023
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It's such an iconic and storied climb, that I think both Pogacar and Vingegaard want it on their resumé.
Your list just made me even more certain, that tomorrow will be won by a GC captain.
Really hope that we get a strong break that creates an infernal pace all day but is caught before the steep section on Puy de Dome so that we don’t miss the GC group action through poor camera work and shocking TV director decisions.
As a poster mentioned the Paris-Nice episode with Vingegaard the mental aspect of failing to land the intended knockout blow will be one to follow. Theoretically this finish is to the favour of Vingegaard so even a stalemate would give Pogacar decent momentum heading to rest day 1.
As a poster mentioned the Paris-Nice episode with Vingegaard the mental aspect of failing to land the intended knockout blow will be one to follow. Theoretically this finish is to the favour of Vingegaard so even a stalemate would give Pogacar decent momentum heading to rest day 1.
I see a 70/30 split. 70%, this will be a decisive GC day regardless of whether a break goes or not. 30% it's going to be a real let down, because they're too far from Paris to risk having to ride nuclear pace for the remainder of the Tour...and I'm 60% sure the 30% part is most likely...Sex Panther, 60% of the time, it works every time.
The nicest result would be Powless...and most of the team, including Powless, backed off earlier in today's stage...I think they have plans.
- Jul 15, 2021
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Accept that he's one of two of a kind. It's comments like this that that get me riled up. Same as all those "The Tour is over" comments when Vingegaard came out on top at Laruns. Jeez I hate casual opportunistic fans.
It can of course go either way, or perhaps even a third way. We have two weeks to go. The Tour is crazy. Stop with the random "this is in the bag for x" predictions already.
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- May 14, 2011
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Wow, none of those times were set in the 90s. Was 1983 a raging tailwind? Bahamontes time on a heavy old bike is incredible. Now I know why Liggett always mentioned him. A truly amazing stat. Thanks for adding to the anticipation for tomorrow.
Edit: I see 83 was a MTT. Still amazing.
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- Feb 8, 2023
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Puy de Dôme hasn’t been raced since 1988, so it got to survive 90s onslaught of climbing records
- Jul 8, 2017
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If Pog is strong enough to grab 40-50 seconds tomorrow, I really don't think Vingegaard will win this Tour.
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