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What else can they do? Put a couple of monster MTFs in the first week and breakaway stages after that?
… I really thought I made my joke obvious enough, but apparently not
The Tour stages looks about the same as they have done the later years, so that is no suprise. The Giro may be lacking use of climbs like Finestre, Mortirolo and Stelvio or a monster Dolomite stage, but may have 3 very long mountain stages, which combines with a fair amount of ITT, could make it a proper designed route.
Do n't worry we all get misunderstood sometimes.
They should make the Plateau de Beille stage Peyresourde, Portillon, Menté, Portet d‘Aspet, Core, Latrape, Agnes, Port de Lers and it‘s all fine.
All the other stages are trying to buy a lot with little climbing so we can also make meh stages the other way around, right?
The rumours about stage 5 talks about a start on saint jean de maurienne and a finish in saint vulbas. Is there a possibility of doing a decent mountain stage between saint jean maurienne and saint vulbas? Probably someone here knows better the region.
I used for fun the site cronoescalada, and i tried to do a decent mountain stage between these two places, so i created a stage that starts in sain jean maurienne and then goes by col du grand cucheron-col marocaz-le bourget du lac-mont du chat-col ordonnaz-serrieres de briod-col de portes-saint vulbas.
This stage as an amount of about 220 km. What do you think of this stage?
I used for fun the site cronoescalada, and i tried to do a decent mountain stage between these two places, so i created a stage that starts in sain jean maurienne and then goes by col du grand cucheron-col marocaz-le bourget du lac-mont du chat-col ordonnaz-serrieres de briod-col de portes-saint vulbas.
This stage as an amount of about 220 km. What do you think of this stage?
Valloire via Galibier
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Indiscrétions. De la Maurienne jusqu'à Isola 2000... Le Tour de France 2024 ne passera pas une mais deux fois par les Alpes !
Une arrivée et un départ en Savoie, puis la Drôme et trois jours entre les Hautes-Alpes et les Alpes-de-Haute-Provence. Le col de la Bonnette (2 802 m) sera le toit de cette édition 2024 qui se terminera à Nice et non à Paris.
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I think that completely unrealistic given that stage 1 and 2 are very stages and stage 4 is a proper mountain stage. Then we go back to the Alps later in the race, so more than one early stage in the high mountains seems like something that definitely wont happen.
Sestriere-Montgenevre-Galibier is fine for stage 4
Edit: what I am more uncertain about is the amount of potentially uninteresting stages until the race gets to Pyrenees.
The first Pyrenees stage is rumored to be stage 14, so that's 9 stages of something-something-something to get there from the Alps.
Ok, there's Lioran, gravel stage and maybe TT, but potentially also up to 6 sprinter'y stages with not much happening
Edit: what I am more uncertain about is the amount of potentially uninteresting stages until the race gets to Pyrenees.
The first Pyrenees stage is rumored to be stage 14, so that's 9 stages of something-something-something to get there from the Alps.
Ok, there's Lioran, gravel stage and maybe TT, but potentially also up to 6 sprinter'y stages with not much happening
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Should look like this.Valloire via Galibier
Indiscrétions. De la Maurienne jusqu'à Isola 2000... Le Tour de France 2024 ne passera pas une mais deux fois par les Alpes !
Une arrivée et un départ en Savoie, puis la Drôme et trois jours entre les Hautes-Alpes et les Alpes-de-Haute-Provence. Le col de la Bonnette (2 802 m) sera le toit de cette édition 2024 qui se terminera à Nice et non à Paris.
No, sorry can n't wait for the 2024 announcement, I'm already on to 2025 - 
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...our-de-france-with-possible-return-of-cobbles
(quote)
After 3 consecutive departures from abroad (Copenhagen/Denmark in 2022, Bilbao/Spanish Basque Country in 2023 and Firenze/Northern Italy in 2024), it will be a Grand Départ in France for this 112th edition of the Grande Boucle, in all likelihood from the Hauts-de-France region.
The Ouest France newspaper was the first to break the news on Thursday afternoon. In the evening, France Bleu Nord confirmed the news. A little later, La Voix du Nord also picked up on this information, stating that it had received confirmation from several high-ranking MEL (Métropole Européenne de Lille) sources.
The local paper mentions three or four stages, starting from Lille, and imagines a return of the cobbles (last seen in the Tour de France 2022, on the stage between Lille and Arenberg), before indicating that "the peloton could also head for the Avesnois, and Picardy, which won't be forgotten". Lille has hosted the Grand Départ of the Tour de France twice before, in 1960 and in 1994.
To sum up, at this stage, Lille, Béthune, Saint-Quentin and Calais are the most likely starting and finishing points for the Grand Départ of the Tour de France 2025 in the Hauts-de-France region. At the end of November, the Grand Départ of the Tour de France 2025 should be officially announced!(end quote)
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...our-de-france-with-possible-return-of-cobbles
(quote)
After 3 consecutive departures from abroad (Copenhagen/Denmark in 2022, Bilbao/Spanish Basque Country in 2023 and Firenze/Northern Italy in 2024), it will be a Grand Départ in France for this 112th edition of the Grande Boucle, in all likelihood from the Hauts-de-France region.
The Ouest France newspaper was the first to break the news on Thursday afternoon. In the evening, France Bleu Nord confirmed the news. A little later, La Voix du Nord also picked up on this information, stating that it had received confirmation from several high-ranking MEL (Métropole Européenne de Lille) sources.
The local paper mentions three or four stages, starting from Lille, and imagines a return of the cobbles (last seen in the Tour de France 2022, on the stage between Lille and Arenberg), before indicating that "the peloton could also head for the Avesnois, and Picardy, which won't be forgotten". Lille has hosted the Grand Départ of the Tour de France twice before, in 1960 and in 1994.
To sum up, at this stage, Lille, Béthune, Saint-Quentin and Calais are the most likely starting and finishing points for the Grand Départ of the Tour de France 2025 in the Hauts-de-France region. At the end of November, the Grand Départ of the Tour de France 2025 should be officially announced!(end quote)
Should look like this.
a pity that the finish actually is not in Valmeier (instead of the mountain top finish of the second pyrenees stage, which then could have been a downhill finish)
No, sorry can n't wait for the 2024 announcement, I'm already on to 2025 -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...our-de-france-with-possible-return-of-cobbles
(quote)
After 3 consecutive departures from abroad (Copenhagen/Denmark in 2022, Bilbao/Spanish Basque Country in 2023 and Firenze/Northern Italy in 2024), it will be a Grand Départ in France for this 112th edition of the Grande Boucle, in all likelihood from the Hauts-de-France region.
The Ouest France newspaper was the first to break the news on Thursday afternoon. In the evening, France Bleu Nord confirmed the news. A little later, La Voix du Nord also picked up on this information, stating that it had received confirmation from several high-ranking MEL (Métropole Européenne de Lille) sources.
The local paper mentions three or four stages, starting from Lille, and imagines a return of the cobbles (last seen in the Tour de France 2022, on the stage between Lille and Arenberg), before indicating that "the peloton could also head for the Avesnois, and Picardy, which won't be forgotten". Lille has hosted the Grand Départ of the Tour de France twice before, in 1960 and in 1994.
To sum up, at this stage, Lille, Béthune, Saint-Quentin and Calais are the most likely starting and finishing points for the Grand Départ of the Tour de France 2025 in the Hauts-de-France region. At the end of November, the Grand Départ of the Tour de France 2025 should be officially announced!(end quote)
Are Ronse and Tournai also not candidate for a stage finish/start?
found the source:
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2022/1...se heeft zich,Sport Joris Vandenhoucke (CD&V).
Indiscrétions. De la Maurienne jusqu'à Isola 2000... Le Tour de France 2024 ne passera pas une mais deux fois par les Alpes !
Une arrivée et un départ en Savoie, puis la Drôme et trois jours entre les Hautes-Alpes et les Alpes-de-Haute-Provence. Le col de la Bonnette (2 802 m) sera le toit de cette édition 2024 qui se terminera à Nice et non à Paris.
www.ledauphine.com
137 km. The perfect distance for a 2020s Tour mountain stage!!Should look like this.
Do we know anything about the stage to Barcelonette? Considering Superdevoluy comes the day before and the route is overall quite backloaded, I honestly wouldn't be too mad if it's just a transition stage.
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