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That gives already a better overview, so:
3 full bunch sprint
5 full bunch sprint (those 2 climbs are not steep at all, and the last around 30 k before the finish, but maybe a sprinter without the required shape could get in dificulties)
6 full bunch sprint sprint
8 seems hilly. Will all depend on how steep those small hills are and on what kind of roads. And of course team orders. But a full bunch sprint can be avoided it seems. Could be something like limoges this year, or maybe even trickyer. Still most likely a kind of a sprint.
10 full bunch sprint (changes of echelons)
12 bunch sprint, but considering it's getting later in the tour and the route will never be really flat during the day, there is a change that with the right composition of attackers it could be a stage for stage hunters
13 full bunch sprint
16 full bunch sprint (another change for echelons)
18 stage for stage hunters (that hill that makes it look like a finish uphill is just the road through the valley on the big road I guess, going uphill for 0,5-1% for a long period)
 
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Stage 12 is easier than I expected. Stage 8 seems similar to Limoges this year.
That makes it looks like we have 6 certain bunch sprints and stage 8 and 12 will depend on how the race developed. Could be both a sprint. But could be something for atackers (stage 12) if the composition of the attackers allow it (team orders, strong enough, ect) and if some punchy guys can ride for themselves in stage 8 (MvdP, van Aert, Alaphilipe) to make those hills hard enough (still need more details to judge). Oh, and of course 2 stages with the possibility of echelons. But of course that most of the times not happens than it really happens.
 
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That gives already a better overview, so:
3 full bunch sprint
5 full bunch sprint (those 2 climbs are not steep at all, and the last around 30 k before the finish, but maybe a sprinter without the required shape could get in dificulties)
6 full bunch sprint sprint
8 seems hilly. Will all depend on how steep those small hills are and on what kind of roads. And of course team orders. But a full bunch sprint can be avoided it seems. Could be something like limoges this year, or maybe even trickyer. Still most likely a kind of a sprint.
10 full bunch sprint (changes of echelons)
12 bunch sprint, but considering it's getting later in the tour and the route will never be really flat during the day, there is a change that with the right composition of attackers it could be a stage for stage hunters
13 full bunch sprint
16 full bunch sprint
18 stage for stage hunters (that hill that makes it look like a finish uphill is just the road through the valley on the big road I guess, going uphill for 0,5-1% for a long period)
Gives Cav lots of chances to 35.
 
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As expected, not a good route. Yes, there are a fair few things to like: the Grand Départ, as was known, is strong, there's an early mountain stage, the gravel stage could be anything between bad and awesome (hard to judge from just a profile) and the TT mileage is shockingly decent (and IMO close to balanced on this route).

However, the fact that 60k of TT that includes a major climb is enough shows that they've really dropped the ball with the thing that matters most: the mountains. There are only six stages with a genuine cat. 1 or higher climb, five of which are in the final 8 stages (seriously, this is more backloaded than many a Giro), with a severe overreliance on HC MTFs (the only non-MTF HCs being Galibier from the meme side, which is still the final climb of the day, Tourmalet in what should be a useless spot, and Bonette), bad pacing and no true queen stage. In addition, there are too many flat stages, once again also in places where you could put something interesting (and I'm not even counting Barcelonnette here).

All in all, ASO are yet again relying on the riders in general and Pogacar in particular to bail them out, because in many a recentish era (or even a race without Pogacar, as proven by the Giro), I would be expecting a race with zero GC attacks over, say, 10k out all Tour on this route.
 
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If we thought that the Giro was bad, this isn't any better.

Gravel stage is a plus. But too many flat stages. We need more hardness in the mountains. We are depending on the riders a lot. hopefully with Pogacar, Remco and Vingo we usually get a good spectacle regardless of the route.
 
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I don't like this route. In some ways it isn't too dissimilar to the Giro route this year. All the (hard) mountain stages are in the second part and all of them finish on a long and tough climb. All the good things from this year's route are gone.

Small positives are:
Finally enough TT kilometers.
Gravel stage.
Col de la Bonette (although I don't see anything relevant happening on Bonette. Isola 2000 is just too hard for that).
 
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As expected, not a good route. Yes, there are a fair few things to like: the Grand Départ, as was known, is strong, there's an early mountain stage, the gravel stage could be anything between bad and awesome (hard to judge from just a profile) and the TT mileage is shockingly decent (and IMO close to balanced on this route).

However, the fact that 60k of TT that includes a major climb is enough shows that they've really dropped the ball with the thing that matters most: the mountains. There are only six stages with a genuine cat. 1 or higher climb, five of which are in the final 8 stages (seriously, this is more backloaded than many a Giro), with a severe overreliance on HC MTFs (the only non-MTF HCs being Galibier from the meme side, which is still the final climb of the day, and Bonette), bad pacing and no true queen stage. In addition, there are too many flat stages, once again also in places where you could put something interesting (and I'm not even counting Barcelonnette here).

All in all, ASO are yet again relying on the riders in general and Pogacar in particular to bail them out, because in many a recentish era (or even a race without Pogacar, as proven by the Giro), I would be expecting a race with zero GC attacks over, say, 10k out all Tour on this route.

yes, mostly agree. All the good stuff we actually already knew. And the presentation was just a confirmation that there were no surprises (except for the amount of gravel) in the other stages.

Good:
-Grand Depart seems really good
-Stage 4 already a real mountain stage.
-Gravel (although we have to see how this relates to gravel in strade bianchi or that we get a puncture party like Paris-Tours)
-The stage to Le Loiran is a well designed finale for a medium mountain stage
-At least we don't see the Southern Alp apear to much in the Tour, so except for the design of those stages it is a nice change of scenary compared to normal
-Good to have a 2nd time trial again

Not Good:
-to many sprint stages
-to backloaded (even with crossing the alps already in the first half)
-first mountain finish only after 2 weeks
-all important mountain stages have HC mountain finish, not helping to break open the stages early
-the design of the mountain stages in general.
-missing some extra medium mountain stage or punchy final

Personally I would have changed a few things:
Stage 1: no changes
Stage 2: no changes
Stage 3: no changes
Stage 4: finish in Vallmeier1800 instead of Valoire, to already have a Mountain top finish in the first 2 weeks
Stage 5: medium mountain instead of sprint (a waste of the jura), with a preference for a downhill finish after the Col de Portes in the finale
Stage 6: no changes (I would like to add some hills from the cote d'or, but with stage 5 already be medium mountain this could be a sprint)
Stage 7: an extra 5 kilometers
Stage 8: no changes (seems already a bit more than just a flat stage)
Stage 9: no changes
Stage 10: no changes
Stage 11: no changes
Stage 12: replace the finish town with another city in the region on a hill top. For example Tulle and then 1 lap around the town (steep uphill finish to see some small action between the GC riders)
Stage 13: no changes (Prudhumme already mentioned sprinters will have to work for it)
Stage 14: no changes (not a great stage, but at least ok)
Stage 15: finish in Foix, no Plateau the Beille (so, Peyresourde, Mente, Portet d'Aspet, Core (added), La Trappe (extra added), Agnes, Mur de Perguere, downhill finish to Foix)
Stage 16: no changes
Stage 17: Col de Moissiere instead of Bayard.
Stage 18: no changes
Stage 19: no changes (or maybe finish in Auron to make changes for attacks on the Bonette higher)
Stage 20: completely different. Start in Isola, Col Colmain, Col de Turini, Col de Castillon, Col de la Madone de Gorbio, Col d'Eze (vanuit Cap d'Ail), Quartre Chemins (from the steep side) and finish in Nice
Stage 21: no changes

Still a bit backloaded, but just wanna show that with a few changes the route already goes from mhew to pretty good.
 
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Be Aso.

Talk about making the route Remco friendly.

Have the start in Italy (Remco's big weakness), the Galibier in stage 4, a Sterrato stage and make the flat Itt only 25kms.

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Profit
From the mini profiles that we’ve gotten, the stage 7 ITT doesn’t look very flat either - though with it being a mini profile that might not be 100% accurate.
 

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