Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 1: Florence (Firenze) - Rimini, 206.0k

[Netserk]

 

[kingjr]

Is anyone else having trouble hearing race radio on letour.com? I'm logged in, turned it on, but no sound.

Works fine for me

 

[RobertCrawley]

Works fine for me

Thanks. I'll continue to troubleshoot.

 

[Boehmand]

In a straight line, yes. But the best descender are because of bike handling skills. Nibali and now Pidcock. Can has had a problem the last several years staying on his bike.

Generally both sprinters and successful classics riders are quite good bike handlers - and also have the fearless streak - they have to, to be good at their job.

We just rarely get to see them descending because it happens out of picture.

 

[samhocking]

20% so he can probaby shift 10 minutes per climb and shifted 7mins on the first biggest one. Gonna be tight.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Jakobsen and Kristoff don't seem to be in such good shape either

 

[roundabout]

there are roughly 35km of categorized uphill left. Losing 1 minute/km uphill perhaps would be an OTL, but a bit less than that should be enough to stay within the time limit.

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Cav's always struggled in the heat but it's tough to watch. I got the impression he's really worked for this too, doing altitude camps (as mentioned in the Lidl Trek article), Suisse, etc. Wasn't just a casual farewell tour. Time comes for everyone but OTL on stage 1 would be a sad way to go out.

 

[ingsve]

Are you disputing the basic principle in physics that heavier things descend faster?

Where did you study physics? The speed v you get from going down height h is v = Sqrt(2gh). As you see, there is no mass in that equation. The only advantage that bigger riders have is that going downhill they don't have the disadvantage of lifting their weight upwards which is what hinders them in climbs. So they can use all their power to gain speed downhill.

 

[roundabout]

Jakobsen and Kristoff don't seem to be in such good shape either

Kristoff was behind Jakobsen at one point on the tracker and now he is 2 minutes ahead

 

[samhocking]

All depends if he is gonna get more sick/weak or already stable in how sick he is.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Has there been a GT stage this year without Jacobsen dropped on the first climb?

 

[AmRacer]

EF pulling hard

 

[Peyroteo94]

Visma already doing mind games! Love it!

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

That's this thing that's held as a self evident truth when there's no particular reason to believe it.

Bigger riders will actually be less likely to race many mountainious races, and should therefor be less experienced descenders, and the amount of situations you have to bomb a descent to make a time cut represent a huge minority of descents raced.

According to (i think it was) Boonen, this is not true at all. If not Boonen, it was another big name sprinter who retired the last decade. He said that sprinters are generally speaking the best descenders of the peloton. Fans simply don't know this, because sprinters never descend while on camera, since they are minutes behind due to the preceding climb. But while they don't ride in the mountains as much as climbers, they are far more comfortable at taking tight corners at high speeds and they have a lot more power to accelerate out of every corner, their weight also works in their favor on longer straight sections of downhill.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Cav's always struggled in the heat but it's tough to watch. I got the impression he's really worked for this too, doing altitude camps (as mentioned in the Lidl Trek article), Suisse, etc. Wasn't just a casual farewell tour. Time comes for everyone but OTL on stage 1 would be a sad way to go out.

Maybe a stomach bug, something he ate. This is really unfortunate.

 

[titan31]

Course the other thing is if he does survive this stage, what sort of shape is he in for tomorrow

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Visma putting out some questionable from the car directives

 

[Peyroteo94]

According to (i think it was) Boonen, this is not true at all. If not Boonen, it was another big name sprinter who retired the last decade. He said that sprinters are generally speaking the best descenders of the peloton. Fans simply don't know this, because sprinters never descend while on camera, since they are minutes behind due to the preceding climb. But while they don't ride in the mountains as much as climbers, they are far more comfortable at taking tight corners at high speeds and they have a lot more power to accelerate out of every corner, their weight also works in their favor on longer straight sections of downhill.

And they are always fighting for position in a bunch sprint and this increase their ability to handle their bike. This is not even a discussion, sprinters are by far better descenders than climbers. Cippo always said this.

 

[fbjim]

Visma putting out some questionable from the car directives

they're helpless without the van. sad to see

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Course the other thing is if he does survive this stage, what sort of shape is he in for tomorrow

One day at a time ....as the old alcoholic song goes

 

[Tim Cahill]

Going to be hard to get used to spotting Rabobank when they're sporting that 1992 Leeds away kit.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

they're helpless without the van. sad to see

They could always ask Twitter like in the Vuelta.

 

[tobydawq]

they're helpless without the van. sad to see

They do have a van.

Van Aert.

 

[Netserk]

Where did you study physics? The speed v you get from going down height h is v = Sqrt(2gh). As you see, there is no mass in that equation. The only advantage that bigger riders have is that going downhill they don't have the disadvantage of lifting their weight upwards which is what hinders them in climbs. So they can use all their power to gain speed downhill.

In a vacuum. Terminal velocity is governed by kg/CdA: