Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 11: Évaux-les-Bains > Le Lioran, 211km

[JosefK]

Rogla crash looks brilliant, now. No way he could have stayed with Remco in the last kilometer. But he must have shrewdly known the special rules for the stage ending.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Lame rule, and lame that Pog didn't win after that attack. Oh well, now its up to Visma to actually do something

 

[Didinho]

So if Remco would be dead and lost way more Roglic would get that time. Now he gets the time from Remco even if you could not know he could’ve followed.

But rules are rules I guess. Maybe another good Remco interview incoming now.

 

[Screecher]

Lame rule, and lame that Pog didn't win after that attack. Oh well, now its up to Visma to actually do something

I agree but who? Jorgenson? Kelderman? I don't see it.

 

[saunaking]

Can't wait for Horner tonite!!
I think he's on his chesterfield holding out a cycling mag with a big centerfold of Jonas like a kid with a playboy back in the day

 

[Tim Cahill]

Not entirely buying the fuelling thing, maybe it was a factor but after the initial surge Vingegaard was already pulling it back on the top of Puy Mary, the gap just ballooned on the descent.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Winning the Giro and Tour in one year, always has he same challenge: Fatigue. That 3rd week is dangerous for Pog.

Those starting to throw Clinic shade on this thread, note Pog's performance since March of this year, and maybe take the talk for both of them to the appropriate part of the Forum. They deserve the criticism, but BOTH of them are mutants, so get your head out of your...well, it's next to the balls.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Wow, I really picked a great day to be too busy at work to be able to think about the Tour... At least the remaining big stages are either on Fridays or weekends, and in any case this race is looking fantastic now, it has every chance of being the best edition of the 21st century.

On another note - this Tour is proving that race organisers are too focused on big MTFs at the expense of everything else. Give me as little as 3-4 truly hard and well-designed high mountain stages (preferably with a maximum one HC MTF in there - the 2015 Giro is the closest recentish comparison to what I'm thinking of) and then the rest of the GC days can be cobbles, gravel, hills, mid-mountain and TTs. Certainly the former two can garner as much hype outside the bubble as the most famous climbs...

 

[Medvind]

Thank god it was nutrition, now can keep believing that Pog really is the strongest, if everything is perfect.
Feared for a bit that Vinge might just be a little bit stronger today. Horrible thought.

 

[Heston]

I agree but who? Jorgenson? Kelderman? I don't see it.

Kelderman looked pretty good today. Was still in the GC group when it was down to 10.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Not entirely buying the fuelling thing, maybe it was a factor but after the initial surge Vingegaard was already pulling it back on the top of Puy Mary, the gap just ballooned on the descent.

Yup, Pog gained time pretty quickly (it wasn't a typical struggle vs Vingo to get a few seconds) but near the top his gap was getting smaller already. As for fuelling, maybe it was the reason, maybe not. Vingo's pace on the penultimate climb must be very alarming to Pog surely. The weekend will confirm it or not.

 

[red_flanders]

I'd be interested to hear the justification for the 3k rule on a mountain stage.

 

[Blobs]

"Vingegaard is afraid of me" - quote Pog

I guess he's right. That's probably why Vingegaard felt the need to catch him and beat him in the sprint.

 

[Medvind]

Not entirely buying the fuelling thing, maybe it was a factor but after the initial surge Vingegaard was already pulling it back on the top of Puy Mary, the gap just ballooned on the descent.

And didn't Pog climb a little bit faster than Remco and Rogla, who Vinge rode off his wheel, on the penultimate climb.
Vinge rode superstrong on that climb.

 

[zlev11]

I'd be interested to hear the justification for the 3k rule on a mountain stage.

there is usually a 3k rule when it's not a summit finish, which today was not. even though it went slightly uphill it was not a categorized climb.

 

[saunaking]

Not entirely buying the fuelling thing, maybe it was a factor but after the initial surge Vingegaard was already pulling it back on the top of Puy Mary, the gap just ballooned on the descent.

Its a coping mechanism for Pog fans

 

[jono]

And didn't Pog climb a little bit faster than Remco and Rogla, who Vinge rode off his wheel, on the penultimate climb.
Vinge rode superstrong on that climb.

Only going a little bit faster than a cracked Evenepoel and Roglic is not good.

 

[Didinho]

Maybe this stage will be a change in Pogi’s approach. Not good for the couch potatoes but better for him. Just follow Vingo now. Result more important than spectacle.

 

[ppanther92]

I agree but who? Jorgenson? Kelderman? I don't see it.

Kelderman did a relatively good ride today. Maybe in the 3rd week he will be where he needs to be.

 

[Nick2413]

Oh my god, what a stage.

View: https://youtu.be/8sHvWYAzIRo?si=egOkEHGz0xoq3xzQ

 

[KOM]

On another note - this Tour is proving that race organisers are too focused on big MTFs at the expense of everything else.

Youre right, but this is also because we are spoiled right now... think about the rotten years of Armstrong, Wiggins, Froome guys who absolutely refused to race unless it was an ITT or a big , steep MTF (hi Sepp). Matter of fact 2016 had the same final 30ks and absolutely nothing happened (15 guys S.T behind sky beeing said nothing here)... but again I agree, but still you need the attitude of the riders and teams to coorperate, if not to say: we need Pogi 😍

 

[Medvind]

Only going a little bit faster than a cracked Evenepoel and Roglic is not good.

Remco cracked? He rode smart, took his own pace to not blow up.

 

[iBanesto]

Pogacar said in his interview post race that his training is more suited for the Pyrenees (longer climbs).

 

[Miha81]

Maybe this stage will be a change in Pogi’s approach. Not good for the couch potatoes but better for him. Just follow Vingo now. Result more important than spectacle.

To be honest I hope he never changes. Even if this means never winning TDF again. But what do I know as couch potato

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Now that he's eaten the smile is back on Pog, in interview he's actually very respectful of Vingo. Good to see!