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Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 15 14/7 Loudenvielle-Plateau de Beille 197.7k

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Ok, I changed my mind. After seeing what happened today UAE and Teddy will become greedy and will want to kill his nemezis tomorrow for good. There will be absurd pace by UAE super doms in the first half of PdB and Teddy will go nuts with half of the climb remaining. If will be a huge victory or will ...backfire if Skeletor suddenly regains megawatts. Epic scenes tomorrow!
I am thinking similar. After this stage its a rest day followed by a flat stage. So this stage is the perfect time to maybe kill the Tour de France. But listening to Vingegaard speak after today, he looked and sounded really tired and I am not expecting him to be able to do much.

Vingo would be hoping Pog cracks at some point. But the reverse could happen due to Vingegaard's massively interrupted and rushed preparation.

The other thing is the reversal of the teams. UAE is killing Visma now who really do look to be on the defensive. Yates was great and I don't think they are missing Ayuso.

PdB starts super steep but there is a flatter section before it kicks up towards the finish. Pog might try to attack before the false flat then extend a lead there.
 
I think Visma has something up their sleeve, the guys that were dropping off early, Laporte and Van Aert especially but also Benoot and Lemmen didn't seem in any difficulty. I wouldn't be surprised if Vingo was just supposed to stay with Pogi today and Visma is cooking up something for tomorrow with all hands on deck.

Maybe they are cooking sth indeed but they keep repeating about 3rd week so maybe its still too early to finally attack :p
 
If Pog has a bad day, it will be here

His terrible, horrible, no good, very bad days have been in the longer mountain stages. Ventoux, Grannon, Loze

The Alps are a bunch of short mountain stages, which tend to favor Pog far more

Granon was 152km, Hautacan 144, Lauruns last year 164 even Loze was 166 so overall not really long stages

Funny most of these stages were on Wednesday.
Oddly, this year he seemed to struggle on Wednesday as well.
 
If Pog has a bad day, it will be here

His terrible, horrible, no good, very bad days have been in the longer mountain stages. Ventoux, Grannon, Loze

The Alps are a bunch of short mountain stages, which tend to favor Pog far more

Really that's not the case, Loze and Granon were rather short stages.
Loze 165, Granon 151 and Ventoux 2021 was almost 200k long but that wasn't a very bad day.

Actually Wednesday was Vingegaards first win over 200k. Pogacar has plenty, 3 alone this year, GTs included.
 
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I think Visma has something up their sleeve, the guys that were dropping off early, Laporte and Van Aert especially but also Benoot and Lemmen didn't seem in any difficulty. I wouldn't be surprised if Vingo was just supposed to stay with Pogi today and Visma is cooking up something for tomorrow with all hands on deck.
While Visma were cooking UAE were taking control of the Tour de France. Vingo wasn't able to stay with Pogi today. I doubt after today if Visma can do much. We will see.
 
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I think Visma are all in tomorrow. I expect they saved Van Aert, who dropped off early today, for a big effort in support of Vingo.
Van Aert dropped early, but he raced very hard until the foot of the Adept according to this twitter thread (full info in more tweets below): View: https://x.com/federicohammer/status/1812208145147539876?s=46&t=v78FW2xUlI-JJSgA79OVfw

I assume the data is from Strava or the race center. From the top of Tourmalet to the foot of Adet Wout was more than 2 minutes faster than the peloton! Then he rode Adet super slow, but apparently he didn’t ride slow from the moment he dropped on Tourmalet.
 
UAE surely have the upper hand, by now even more crystal clear.

The puzzle for Visma became even more hairy.

Vinge might still be the superior climber on these mountains. But he needs a drilling tempo from the gun (and +20k longer exhaustive distance IMO, besides good recovery/no fatigue...).

As I see it, any of the climbs are with steepness just above WvA comfort zone, speaking much eager fellow breakaway riders with quite more dedicated climbing skills, I would expect.

UAE have every power to neutralize WvA or Jorgensen on Peuresourde, Menté and Portet d'Aspet.
And cannot see Tratnik have a go neither.

It is too bold of Visma to just bet on the status quo until the bottom of the final climb at a pace that suits Pogi best, apart from...Yes, you can probably say that a slower pace might also suit Vinge the best, with his signs of fatigue towards d'Adet.

But that's Vinge's weapon - grueling long stages and long, high, constant percentages of climb.

Jonas will find it extremely difficult to utilize his strongest weapon here, without a team like the last two editions.

However, if UAE reads signs of fatigue in Jonas, high pace ofc will be an additional advantage for Pogi, with the possibility of creating a margin that cannot be taken back in the Alps.

If that happens, I don't think we'll see a stage winner from the break.

But there will be so much spice on that stage right from the block, undoubtedly various details to enjoy, whether it's from the break, UAE, identifying Jonas' style on the day or the day of Remco's supremely greatest test day of GT strength.

A full stage must see to me.
 
Van Aert dropped early, but he raced very hard until the foot of the Adept according to this twitter thread (full info in more tweets below): View: https://x.com/federicohammer/status/1812208145147539876?s=46&t=v78FW2xUlI-JJSgA79OVfw

I assume the data is from Strava or the race center. From the top of Tourmalet to the foot of Adet Wout was more than 2 minutes faster than the peloton! Then he rode Adet super slow, but apparently he didn’t ride slow from the moment he dropped on Tourmalet.
His bike was on the car, so if it's from his transponder, I think it's a mistake.

Unless you also think he climbed Pla d'Adet faster than Healy.