Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 15 14/7 Loudenvielle-Plateau de Beille 197.7k

[James M]

Kelderman doing a great job to be fair. Add one of Kuss/Kruijswijk to the GC group and Visma would suddenly look great

Kelderman doing good rest feels kinda underwheelming and im doubtful what grandpa Kruijswijk would do also Kuss from this year wouldnt do anything at all imo,

 

[Samu Cuenca]

De Plus got it (10 points) from Agnes.

 

[James M]

They are just bringing the best team available. Kuss is not there and thats a real bummer, but apart from that, its a very similar team to those of 22 and 23. They have been very strong in stages where Vingegaard might otherwise have lost time as well.

But is kuss really good this year? He seems to have been destroyed by last years 3 Gt's imo. Dont think Kuss would do much this year. Kuss from previous years, yes.

 

[ppanther92]

Vingegaard is at least trying to do something with his so-called TdF team, but precarious how weak the rest of Visma is, - but at least he is giving such a big Tour-stage a shot across the bow.
And its better to use the little his teammates seems to muster, before they gone either way and they cleared a huge part of the maingroup, so that's something.

That sounds like he rides for Uno-X. Obviously UAE’s tactic of using the monetary advantage worked for their mountain strength. But “so-called TdF team”, is a bit harsh when they have the 2nd largest number of riders in the group. And having to deal with an unexpected weakness of WvA and Kuss this year.

 

[Heston]

Where did Simon Yates go? Did he really get dropped by Halland Johannesen?

 

[Peyroteo94]

Visma was a little bit stupid. They will burn Matteo very soon or Vingegaard is going to attack very early on Plateau de Beille.

 

[noob]

Why does UAE have to catch the break? If Visma doesn't why would UAE ride? (this a comment to commentators saying UAE has to ride if Visma cannot do it anymore)

 

[Penninepeddler]

They are just bringing the best team available. Kuss is not there and thats a real bummer, but apart from that, its a very similar team to those of 22 and 23. They have been very strong in stages where Vingegaard might otherwise have lost time as well.

Tbf:

2022: Vingegaard, Roglic, Kuss, Kruijswijk

as best 4 climbers. That is just a whole different beats.

I agree vs 2023 in general. Though Kuss is a big miss. And Kelderman and van Aert were in waaay better climbing form.

They probably could have brought one more climber though.

 

[Tim Cahill]

This little 5k kicker after the climb is over is nasty work

 

[Peyroteo94]

Keldermann leading a descent... this is not good

 

[Ulle97]

The time gaps will be massive by the top of Plateau de Beille...... only 20 riders left in the peloton and most of them just hanging in.....

 

[GroupDK]

They are just bringing the best team available. Kuss is not there and thats a real bummer, but apart from that, its a very similar team to those of 22 and 23. They have been very strong in stages where Vingegaard might otherwise have lost time as well.

sure, WvA and Benoot, are saving themself for tomorrow.
wake up, they are subpar...

 

[Heston]

Tbf:

2022: Vingegaard, Roglic, Kuss, Kruijswijk

as best 4 climbers. That is just a whole different beats.

I agree vs 2023 in general. Though Kuss is a big miss. And Kelderman and van Aert were in waaay better climbing form.

They probably could have brought one more climber though.

One more climber was also the plan. Lemmen was a last minute replacement due to Kuss being ill. And Kruijswijk got injured too.

 

[noob]

'stunning scenery!

 

[Tim Cahill]

Visma should've just taken Cian and told him if he really wants to ride the Vuelta then *** off to Movistar.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Kelderman doing good rest feels kinda underwheelming and im doubtful what grandpa Kruijswijk would do also Kuss from this year wouldnt do anything at all imo,

Kuss usually does crappy until the grand tours, saying he wouldn’t do anything at all is a far reached stretch.

 

[Valv.Piti]

sure, WvA and Benoot, are saving themself for tomorrow.
wake up, they are subpar...

Where did I say that? They are here with the best team available, and they are doing their best.

 

[Squire]

Why does UAE have to catch the break? If Visma doesn't why would UAE ride? (this a comment to commentators saying UAE has to ride if Visma cannot do it anymore)

If Visma stops riding in the valley, UAE will probably put a man on the front and do some kind of steady tempo. Not to catch the break, but to limit the amount of chaos that could ensue in the favourites group if nobody rides.

 

[yaco]

Yeah I don't understand this at all, Healy was going better than Carapaz.

Nah. healy will always struggle in high multi-mountain stage. carapaz is the better option.

 

[Samamba]

Strong from Johannessen, very important to be in front before the valley.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Where the *** did he come from

 

[noob]

Looking better for Halland, but wondering how long he'll last

 

[yaco]

Where did Simon Yates go? Did he really get dropped by Halland Johannesen?

Look thorugh his GC history. When he comes in undercooked/out of form he does not regain it through the GT. He also got Covid in week one which does not help.

 

[Sciatic]

Slept late and just tuned in . . . I see we have a break of champions.

 

[Didinho]

Ready for some Contador - Rasmussen attacks on Plateau de Beille. While Remco and Rodriguez return 18 times.