Tour de France Tour de France 2024 stage 17: Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux - Superdévoluy, 177.8 km

[QueenStagiaire]

Kuss and Kruijswijk don't weigh 500 kgs, that'd make them almost the biggest people on Earth!

Kruijswijk‘s shoulders weigh 900 kilos, so I think a ton is about accurate.

 

[Cookster15]

Also, he will never use those injuries as an excuse. He always says that Tadej is better. Jonas is a solid guy.

Agree about Jonas, but not his team. On stage 15 on PdB the team was on the radio saying "we believe he will have problems". That was before Jonas attacked and before Pogacar launched his counter attack which took another minute on GC. Today IMO we are seeing Vingegaard running out of base endurance, but he might prove me wrong on stage 19.

 

[Cookster15]

Nice win by Carapaz and great to see Remco riding strongly so deep into the 3rd week. Pogacar shows no signs of Giro fatigue but three big stages left to go and anything can still happen. But after today I think Vingegaard might be fading from lack of base-load conditioning. He would never let a wheel go like that ordinarily.

 

[Ulle97]

Could the psychological damage of losing 10secs to Remco have an impact on Pogacar going into the Bonette stage??

 

[Taxus4a]

Congrats to Carapaz. Hope to see him on the future fighteen with the best for GC, It is his place.

 

[OJRvE]

Could the psychological damage of losing 10secs to Remco have an impact on Pogacar going into the Bonette stage??

Pog gifted those seconds to Remco so no

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Worst kept secret in cycling.

...and he pretty much, always feels good...

 

[titan31]

Kuss and Kruijswijk don't weigh 500 kgs, that'd make them almost the biggest people on Earth!

Imagine how difficult it would be to attack if they were in front of you though. Just find a narrow road and have them slow down as Vingegaard rides away.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

I had to promise them we go swimming tomorrow afternoon and children park on Friday to get to watch today, Saturday and Sunday stages last hour or so. Life sometimes isn't fair

As mentioned earlier, sometimes life is a little more than trivialities as working round the clock and kids duties.
In my case, besides the former mentioned, to take care of more close relatives affected by more severe illness, physically as well as mentally without going into further details. Life sometimes strucks, but then hobbies like this fortunately can be a perfect diversion from worries of which nothing can be done during the late hours anyway.
But this evening in my barn just found a bedated monitor + motherboard+CPU with onboard graphics andh DVI output matching the monitor, just finished putting all together in old case for the purpose of flow/slow TV from the corner of my eye tomorrow with @home working day - just hoping for a slightly quieter day

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

If he feels good, he goes!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813605820208410869

View: https://x.com/LeTour/status/1813605820208410869

Well, it's still Pogi, eyh?

 

[topt]

So Teddy dropped Vingo two times and gained...whooping 2 seconds! Something was off in case of his first attack: JV had a guy to help Vingo on the descent but no UAE guy was waiting for Pog. A wasted match by Pogacar. Can't wait to the final weekend.

at this time Pog is just playing with Jonas, he can drop him whenever he wants to and will do so in next few days.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Here come the EF goonsquad to ruin another break

Thanks great analysis

 

[Netserk]

Yeah, but Pogi attacked at only -1,4km from the peak of Col du Noyer.
Perhaps, at that point, the other riders didn't think they could make much of a difference compared to their 4° to 11° counterparts.

If one of the 4-11° guys thinks he could gain something uphill against his competitors, he'll have tons of opportunities to do so on stage 19 and stage 20.

Stage 19 - Embrun > Isola 2000 - Tour de France 2024

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Stage 20 - Nice > Col de la Couillole - Tour de France 2024

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The attack was 900 m from the top of the climb: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.692...umbfov=90!7i13312!8i6656?coh=205410&entry=ttu

You can also see the group pass the 1 km to the top banner before the attack.

 

[Sciatic]

They are not that old. Just that this extraordinary new generation came and dominated in 2020's.

Yup.

 

[Lequack]

Tom Dumoulin also with his take:
Tom Dumoulin claims that Tadej Pogacar is arrogant about the attack on the Col du Noyer: “This is pure bluff, it is a pure demonstration of force. Pogacar is 3 minutes ahead, it doesn't have to at all. He does it simply to annoy Vingegaard”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813706958987551097

View: https://x.com/Noticiclismo1/status/1813706958987551097

 

[Sciatic]

Yes Pogacar definitely had Covid after the Giro

I meant whatever they two riders who were driven separately to the start yesterday or today (assuming because they were sick)

 

[Lequack]

And a nice pic

 

[Sciatic]

According to his own words he had COVID around 2 weeks before the Tour. It didn't hamper his VO2 too much though!

I wasn’t talking about Pog, I meant in the other riders.

 

[Sciatic]

Finally a race-in-the-race stage. It's twice as fun when there is a battle for the stage win and after that a battle for the GC. First time this year.

And a quality breakaway and then duel of two former GT winners

 

[Netserk]

Tom Dumoulin also with his take:
Tom Dumoulin claims that Tadej Pogacar is arrogant about the attack on the Col du Noyer: “This is pure bluff, it is a pure demonstration of force. Pogacar is 3 minutes ahead, it doesn't have to at all. He does it simply to annoy Vingegaard”

While it can be reasonably interpreted as that, I also think that it was a good attack from Pogi to gain information. And perhaps to signal to Evenepoel that 2nd is in play.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Tom Dumoulin also with his take:
Tom Dumoulin claims that Tadej Pogacar is arrogant about the attack on the Col du Noyer: “This is pure bluff, it is a pure demonstration of force. Pogacar is 3 minutes ahead, it doesn't have to at all. He does it simply to annoy Vingegaard”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813706958987551097

View: https://x.com/Noticiclismo1/status/1813706958987551097

What Netserk said and Pogacar is enjoying his new found freedom of not having a Visma rider glued to his wheel anytime he does anything.

 

[red_flanders]

Tom Dumoulin also with his take:
Tom Dumoulin claims that Tadej Pogacar is arrogant about the attack on the Col du Noyer: “This is pure bluff, it is a pure demonstration of force. Pogacar is 3 minutes ahead, it doesn't have to at all. He does it simply to annoy Vingegaard”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813706958987551097

View: https://x.com/Noticiclismo1/status/1813706958987551097

That's a pretty whiny take from Big Tom. Who cares? If he wants to attack, why shouldn't he? He got crushed last year. No reason why he should feel safe, or feel like he has any reason not to keep attacking.

 

[red_flanders]

While it can be reasonably interpreted as that, I also think that it was a good attack from Pogi to gain information.

Agreed, he sensed some weakness and wanted to see what he could get.

And perhaps to signal to Evenepoel that 2nd is in play.

Hmm...personally I don't think so. One, why? Two, how would he know Remco would be able to move past Vingo? Just not seeing that. I wonder if maybe you're putting a bit too much stock in the bromance?

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Just couldn't resist, though a bit of fast-forward sometimes (just as the riders, difficult to catch tempo!).
A heck of a stage!
To my likening definitely!

 

[Squire]

And a nice pic

Awesome! I noticed during the broadcast as well how beautiful that climb was.