Tour de France Tour de France 2024 stage 17: Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux - Superdévoluy, 177.8 km

[sam6]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813308800436441296

Might we see a repeat of the Vuelta stage he won? Pogi, Vingegaard and Evenepoel will catch and drop the break then play games while a flying Champoussin flies past them with an open mouth

 

[hfer07]

The real question is: How far out is the attack by Pogacar going to occur?

 

[gregrowlerson]

They should IMO. Try to get Van Aert, Tratnik or Kelderman in.

I haven't had 10 minutes of hope for Kelderman win before inevitable 11th place from breakaway all Tour

If MVDP defeats Wilco from the break will you press your button?

 

[red_flanders]

Maybe QS to keep things together. They are quite confident Remco can beat Vingo

Mikel Landa has "little doubt" that Remco Evenepoel can still contest second place at Tour de France against Jonas Vingegaard

Mikel Landa is the best Spaniard in the Tour de Fran

cyclinguptodate.com

I'm not sure that's at all what Landa is saying, the quote is a bit hard to parse. Here's Landa's quote:

"There's a lot of Tour left, I'm fine, I'm looking forward to it, let's see if we have a good week. The only thing we are doing is chasing, we don't have time for much more, let's hope to be close to Jonas to see if he (Evenepoel, ed.) can get closer. Sunday's demonstration leaves little doubt, but there are still days left and Visma is going to make a tough race".

Not seeing that they're "quite confident that Remco can beat Vingo". "They" in this case are...Landa. And he's just hoping Remco can stay close and see if Remco can get closer.

Seems like a pretty click-baity headline, no?

 

[houtdffan]

I'm not sure that's at all what Landa is saying, the quote is a bit hard to parse. Here's Landa's quote:

Not seeing that they're "quite confident that Remco can beat Vingo". "They" in this case are...Landa. And he's just hoping Remco can stay close and see if Remco can get closer.

Seems like a pretty click-baity headline, no?

seems like Vingo's quotes before Sunday

Can discuss further in the clinic

 

[red_flanders]

seems like Vingo's quotes before Sunday

Can discuss further in the clinic

Hey, I'm gonna be honest, you've lost me here.

Maybe QS to keep things together. They are quite confident Remco can beat Vingo

Landa literally says the only thing they're doing is chasing, and they hope Remco can get closer. Also that Visma, not QS, is going to make a tough race.

So...he's saying nothing about QS keeping things together and definitely nothing remotely like being "quite confident Remco can beat Vingo". What any of that has to do with the clinic is beyond me. Sorry, I don't get where you're coming from on this one.

 

[Andre]

This is a stage for Remco to win.

 

[search]

I'm not sure that's at all what Landa is saying, the quote is a bit hard to parse. Here's Landa's quote:

Not seeing that they're "quite confident that Remco can beat Vingo". "They" in this case are...Landa. And he's just hoping Remco can stay close and see if Remco can get closer.

Seems like a pretty click-baity headline, no?

it's better to avoid that website altogether, as it just consists of (AI translated?) articles copied from elsewhere anyway.

Here's the original quote from Landa, for example. It basically says that he has no doubts that Pogacar will win. It's not related to the part about Evenepoel potentially fighting Vingegaard:

Landa: "Vamos a ver si Vingegaard tiene un mal día y Evenepoel puede acercarse"

Mikel Landa, quinto de la general del Tour de Francia y compañero del belga Remco Evenepoel, tercero, aseguró que esperan que el danés Jonas Vingegaard, segundo, pueda

www.mundodeportivo.com

 

[Berniece]

Echelons to be expected in the first hour. People attacking, GC teams forcing echelons, expect some chaos

 

[E_F_]

Echelons to be expected in the first hour. People attacking, GC teams forcing echelons, expect some chaos

Visma isolate Pogi in the crosswinds, attack him on the climbs, he takes another half a minute.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Echelons to be expected in the first hour. People attacking, GC teams forcing echelons, expect some chaos

Only looks like 18-20kph to me? If so, probably not enough to see echelons.

 

[Berniece]

Only looks like 18-20kph to me? If so, probably not enough to see echelons.

Only at the start, first 30km's. Wind at 36km/h with gusts of 57km/h, starts in the back, but then it goes on the side.

If someone of the top 3 is dropped there, they might keep riding, or if Girmay is dropped, Alpecin will probably keep riding. So we might see some action. But if no one important is dropped, it won't matter.

 

[Devrann]

No matter what happens in GC today, I would love to see a breakaway or someone out of GC win today..Maybe Mohoric,Healy,Wout Poles,MVDP etc.. My pick is Matej Mohoric.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Only at the start, first 30km's. Wind at 36km/h with gusts of 57km/h, starts in the back, but then it goes on the side.

If someone of the top 3 is dropped there, they might keep riding, or if Girmay is dropped, Alpecin will probably keep riding. So we might see some action. But if no one important is dropped, it won't matter.

Yes, I was looking at the start too...

 

[Berniece]

Yes, I was looking at the start too...

Dot in top left corner is the start, they go down, and then to Visan. Image comes from windy.com at 13:00, with the default ECMWF wind model.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

I cheer for the break today.
Nomatter how broke they may be.

 

[BigL]

Everybody must hope that Pogi had a bad breakfast. Any oatmeal in that buffet, and it’s over.

 

[CleanCiclismo]

I wouldn't be surprised if 3 of the last 5 stages went to the breakaway.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Dot in top left corner is the start, they go down, and then to Visan. Image comes from windy.com at 13:00, with the default ECMWF wind model.

Interesting. Looking into it more, big differences between the models right now, hopefully we get lucky.

 

[topcat]

Not sure if it will be a gc day, it might be all about the break fast.

 

[KZD]

No matter what happens in GC today, I would love to see a breakaway or someone out of GC win today..Maybe Mohoric,Healy,Wout Poles,MVDP etc.. My pick is Matej Mohoric.

Van der Poel should wait for tomorrow's stage that suits him much better.

I will go with Johanessen for today, I was impressed with his performance on stage 15. Alpecin will probably try to put Philipsen on the early break and Visma should make the race hard on the final but I don't see any gaps between the top3 unless the stage win in still within reach.

 

[DenisMenchov]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2TQ18evqMY&pp=ygUzVG91ciBkZSBGcmFuY2UgMjAyNCBTdGFnZSAxNyBQcmV2aWV3OiBBbHBpbmUgRXNjYXBl


Interesting, it can actually be a day for someone like Gee or Buitrago.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Everybody must hope that Pogi had a bad breakfast. Any oatmeal in that buffet, and it’s over.

Yep, there is oat in GOAT.

 

[Stubb]

Today and tomorrow GC guys should step back and let other teams have a shot (EF and movistar deserve it); no need to be greedy, pog and vinge have the last three to contend.
So, lazkano spanking skinny climbers is my ideal scenario for today!

 

[Devil's Elbow]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813508406197760245