Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 5: Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne > Saint-Vulbas, 177.4 km

[scribers]

Philipsen looked like he legit tried by his facial expression

 

[RobertCrawley]

Liggett in tears of joy... he's old, I'll allow it.

I think cycling is the cryingest sport in the world.

I'm totally here for that.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Prince Harry is showing his age though

 

[tobydawq]

Speaking of which, 16 years between first and last Tour stage win now. That must be at least close to a record too?

I definitely think that's a record.

I also think he might be the second oldest stage winner ever.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Pogi, "I'll make it 36 in 5 more years."

Let's be realistic, there's more sprinting to come and he looked very strong. Would be no surprise if he goes out with a few more stage wins. He has an incredible eye for the win, knows when risks will pay off and today we could see how strong he still is. Incredibly annoying qualities if you never liked him winning.

I have to say though, looking at how happy he is and how much he appreciated that this wasn't his sucess alone, I do feel kind of happy for him even.

It's an incredible record, an incredible career and and incredible skill demonstrated by him. But in my opinion it's also a document of how there are to many flat stages with to easy finishes for the way the sport developed.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Sure didnt look like a GOAT to me when he got dropped 150 km from the line and was vomiting on Saturday, gut I guess thats what sprinters do

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Speaking of which, 16 years between first and last Tour stage win now. That must be at least close to a record too?

It could be that 13 years was already a record, it‘s definitely ahead of Poulidor and tied with Bartali.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

This to me has been a lot like Aleksandr Ovechkin's pursuit of the NHL goals record. It feels somehow wrong for him to break it, cos the guy that holds the record is unquestionably a better player, and for the last few years the entire modus operandi of the Capitals has been to get Ovechkin goals by any means necessary, knowing they will lose games as their team is rebuilding. So they've been sending him out for the whole 2 minutes of the powerplay to stand in the circle and rip shots every time the puck comes near him, sending him out every time the opponent pulls the goalie and instructing others to pass to him for the empty netter, giving him almost 100% offensive-zone starts, and so on, that means that breaking the record feels a little hollow seeing as nobody in their right mind thinks Ovechkin a greater player than Gretzky and it feels a bit wrong to not have Gretzky hold that record, but you just can't help but admire the longevity needed and respect the hustle that has been involved in Ovechkin's quest to get there.

I see Cav in the same way. It doesn't feel right to have Merckx not hold the record, and the fact Cavendish has spread his wins over far more years and has only won one type of stage means it feels a bit hollow that he's the record holder because, hey, he's a sprinter and they always get more chances to win - a bit like the most decorated Olympian always being a swimmer because of the plethora of medals available - and yet having seen all of the highs and lows, and all the people who were thinking in 2009-10 that he'd have broken this record by 2015 because of his dominance, watched him go through reinvention, moving from team to team, breaking down and building himself back up, and... is it three now... repeated attempts to 'get the band back together' for one last shot at the record as he ages out and is forced to adapt to a lesser lead-out and stronger and faster riders around him, and try to do to the young guys what Alessandro Petacchi once did to him... again, I don't really want a one-dimensional sprinter to hold the record and somebody other than Merckx holding it just seems wrong, but it's impossible not to admire the longevity and respect the hustle that has earned him this undisputable place in history.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I am undecided. I think we need further facial analysise of philepsem to decide if the win is legitimate or no

 

[Devil's Elbow]

It could be that 13 years was already a record, it‘s definitely ahead of Poulidor and tied with Bartali.

Quick research tells me Jean Alavoine reached a 14-year range, so it definitely wasn't the record yet.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

It could be that 13 years was already a record, it‘s definitely ahead of Poulidor and tied with Bartali.

Lance has 16 if you count stripped TTTs

 

[TourOfSardinia]

'Life Is What Happens When You're Busy Making Other Plans'​

( attrib. John Lennon)​

 

[triley36]

Hope when the excitement of Cav’s win settles in there is some time to consider Phillipson’s dangerous move across the road. Looked bad to me. Don’t know if it led to the crash behind, but dangerous nonetheless.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Cav

OMG

WOW

Sprinting GOAT

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Lance has 16 if you count stripped TTTs

An Astwrisked TTT is more of an legitimate individual win than today's farcical rigged procession?

 

[Tricycle Rider]

I think cycling is the cryingest sport in the world.

I'm totally here for that.

I think it's nice to see some emotion on riders myself.

 

[tobydawq]

This to me has been a lot like Aleksandr Ovechkin's pursuit of the NHL goals record. It feels somehow wrong for him to break it, cos the guy that holds the record is unquestionably a better player, and for the last few years the entire modus operandi of the Capitals has been to get Ovechkin goals by any means necessary, knowing they will lose games as their team is rebuilding. So they've been sending him out for the whole 2 minutes of the powerplay to stand in the circle and rip shots every time the puck comes near him, sending him out every time the opponent pulls the goalie and instructing others to pass to him for the empty netter, giving him almost 100% offensive-zone starts, and so on, that means that breaking the record feels a little hollow seeing as nobody in their right mind thinks Ovechkin a greater player than Gretzky and it feels a bit wrong to not have Gretzky hold that record, but you just can't help but admire the longevity needed and respect the hustle that has been involved in Ovechkin's quest to get there.

I see Cav in the same way. It doesn't feel right to have Merckx not hold the record, and the fact Cavendish has spread his wins over far more years and has only won one type of stage means it feels a bit hollow that he's the record holder because, hey, he's a sprinter and they always get more chances to win - a bit like the most decorated Olympian always being a swimmer because of the plethora of medals available - and yet having seen all of the highs and lows, and all the people who were thinking in 2009-10 that he'd have broken this record by 2015 because of his dominance, watched him go through reinvention, moving from team to team, breaking down and building himself back up, and... is it three now... repeated attempts to 'get the band back together' for one last shot at the record as he ages out and is forced to adapt to a lesser lead-out and stronger and faster riders around him, and try to do to the young guys what Alessandro Petacchi once did to him... again, I don't really want a one-dimensional sprinter to hold the record and somebody other than Merckx holding it just seems wrong, but it's impossible not to admire the longevity and respect the hustle that has earned him this undisputable place in history.

That icehockey reference makes no sense.

This is a Tour stage we're talking about.

 

[sam6]

This to me has been a lot like Aleksandr Ovechkin's pursuit of the NHL goals record. It feels somehow wrong for him to break it, cos the guy that holds the record is unquestionably a better player, and for the last few years the entire modus operandi of the Capitals has been to get Ovechkin goals by any means necessary, knowing they will lose games as their team is rebuilding. So they've been sending him out for the whole 2 minutes of the powerplay to stand in the circle and rip shots every time the puck comes near him, sending him out every time the opponent pulls the goalie and instructing others to pass to him for the empty netter, giving him almost 100% offensive-zone starts, and so on, that means that breaking the record feels a little hollow seeing as nobody in their right mind thinks Ovechkin a greater player than Gretzky and it feels a bit wrong to not have Gretzky hold that record, but you just can't help but admire the longevity needed and respect the hustle that has been involved in Ovechkin's quest to get there.

I see Cav in the same way. It doesn't feel right to have Merckx not hold the record, and the fact Cavendish has spread his wins over far more years and has only won one type of stage means it feels a bit hollow that he's the record holder because, hey, he's a sprinter and they always get more chances to win - a bit like the most decorated Olympian always being a swimmer because of the plethora of medals available - and yet having seen all of the highs and lows, and all the people who were thinking in 2009-10 that he'd have broken this record by 2015 because of his dominance, watched him go through reinvention, moving from team to team, breaking down and building himself back up, and... is it three now... repeated attempts to 'get the band back together' for one last shot at the record as he ages out and is forced to adapt to a lesser lead-out and stronger and faster riders around him, and try to do to the young guys what Alessandro Petacchi once did to him... again, I don't really want a one-dimensional sprinter to hold the record and somebody other than Merckx holding it just seems wrong, but it's impossible not to admire the longevity and respect the hustle that has earned him this undisputable place in history.

Don't worry, Pogi will have the record eventually and there won't be that problem with him

 

[will-10]

This to me has been a lot like Aleksandr Ovechkin's pursuit of the NHL goals record. It feels somehow wrong for him to break it, cos the guy that holds the record is unquestionably a better player, and for the last few years the entire modus operandi of the Capitals has been to get Ovechkin goals by any means necessary, knowing they will lose games as their team is rebuilding. So they've been sending him out for the whole 2 minutes of the powerplay to stand in the circle and rip shots every time the puck comes near him, sending him out every time the opponent pulls the goalie and instructing others to pass to him for the empty netter, giving him almost 100% offensive-zone starts, and so on, that means that breaking the record feels a little hollow seeing as nobody in their right mind thinks Ovechkin a greater player than Gretzky and it feels a bit wrong to not have Gretzky hold that record, but you just can't help but admire the longevity needed and respect the hustle that has been involved in Ovechkin's quest to get there.

I see Cav in the same way. It doesn't feel right to have Merckx not hold the record, and the fact Cavendish has spread his wins over far more years and has only won one type of stage means it feels a bit hollow that he's the record holder because, hey, he's a sprinter and they always get more chances to win - a bit like the most decorated Olympian always being a swimmer because of the plethora of medals available - and yet having seen all of the highs and lows, and all the people who were thinking in 2009-10 that he'd have broken this record by 2015 because of his dominance, watched him go through reinvention, moving from team to team, breaking down and building himself back up, and... is it three now... repeated attempts to 'get the band back together' for one last shot at the record as he ages out and is forced to adapt to a lesser lead-out and stronger and faster riders around him, and try to do to the young guys what Alessandro Petacchi once did to him... again, I don't really want a one-dimensional sprinter to hold the record and somebody other than Merckx holding it just seems wrong, but it's impossible not to admire the longevity and respect the hustle that has earned him this undisputable place in history.

One of your stranger takes, I have to be honest.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Bini in green! Love that!

 

[Libertine Seguros]

No one cares about what you said. He won 35 fairly, who are you to say he doesn't deserve the record holder?

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, the last part was saying precisely that. I'm saying it somehow feels wrong that Merckx doesn't hold it anymore, but you can't help but admire and respect the effort that has gone into breaking it.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Bini in green now - what a spectacular day in cycling today is!

 

[MrTea1976]

Merckx shouldn't have ridden at least one of the Tours. I'm glad Cavendish won.

 

[snipeheem]

Cant wait for GOAT breaking this record in 2030

 

[Salvarani]

That icehockey reference makes no sense.

This is a Tour stage we're talking about.

I think you understand the point of it, even if you dont agree.