Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 7: Nuits-Saint-Georges > Gevrey-Chambertin, 25.3 km (ITT)

[Netserk]

Fully expect Jorgenson to catch Gall though.

I would honestly be shocked if anyone other than Remco won. I think that if anyone might be able to do it, it's Pogacar, but let's not overrate Pogacar in flat TTs too much. Ganna pretty much had his number on the flat during the Giro and I think Remco is at least on that level. He has looked phenomenal so far so I would be surprised by anything but a brilliant TT from him.

It's not a flat ITT. And the descent is not one where Evenepoel will gain any time, to put it that way. I get the steep part of the hill to 1.3 km at ~6.9 %.

 

[AmRacer]

It's not a flat ITT. And the descent is not one where Evenepoel will gain any time, to put it that way. I get the steep part of the hill to 1.3 km at ~6.9 %.

Is it a technical descent with twists and turns?

 

[Netserk]

Is it a technical descent with twists and turns?

Many high speed bends. Not the biggest road either.

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[Gigs_98]

It's not a flat ITT. And the descent is not one where Evenepoel will gain any time, to put it that way. I get the steep part of the hill to 1.3 km at ~6.9 %.

Well 1. a TT with one 1.3 km at 7% hill is pretty much a flat TT and 2. Evenepoel isn't Ganna either. I wouldn't expect a rider climbing as well as Evenepoel to lose much time there. The descent worried me initially but I think it's not overly technical, right?

 

[AmRacer]

Many high speed bends. Not the biggest road either.

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Remco can lose time there if he is too scared for fast descending.

 

[AmRacer]

Well 1. a TT with one 1.3 km at 7% hill is pretty much a flat TT and 2. Evenepoel isn't Ganna either. I wouldn't expect a rider climbing as well as Evenepoel to lose much time there. The descent worried me initially but I think it's not overly technical, right?

There's a map above.

 

[Netserk]

Well 1. a TT with one 1.3 km at 7% hill is pretty much a flat TT and 2. Evenepoel isn't Ganna either. I wouldn't expect a rider climbing as well as Evenepoel to lose much time there. The descent worried me initially but I think it's not overly technical, right?

It's flat like the first part of the second Giro ITT where Pogi was faster than Ganna.

 

[Froome]

Many high speed bends. Not the biggest road either.

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It looks a bit dangerous and very technical.

 

[AmRacer]

It looks a bit dangerous and very technical.

Jonas territory.

 

[ice&fire]

Is this town named after St. George's nuts?

It's named after St George's nights. Does that make it better?

 

[AmRacer]

It's named after St George's nights. Does that make it better?

K?

 

[Rackham]

The ITT looks interesting based on a few profiles which make it look punchy & technical, but I won't get my hopes up.

Is this town named after St. George's nuts?

It's named after St George's nights. Does that make it better?

Most squirrels do not collect nuts at night... because they're diurnal, not nocturnal. It means they go to bed like humans.

I don't know what that has to do with St George either but I just wanted to add something to the conversation.

 

[houtdffan]

If Gouvenou didn't Gouvenou, this stage would be far more important as it would be a proper length TT.

End of first week ITTs should be at least 50 kms

So what if Remco would go full Indurain at Luxembourg or Ullrich in the MTT in 1997. The Pog would have to attack in the high mountains and we'd see a better TDF

 

[Netserk]

The ITT looks interesting based on a few profiles which make it look punchy & technical, but I won't get my hopes up.

Couldn't be better for Rogla.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

It's named after St George's nights. Does that make it better?

Did St George have a beautiful wife to spend those nights with? If so, would this have impeded him a lot in undulating time trials like this one?

 

[AmRacer]

If Gouvenou didn't Gouvenou, this stage would be far more important as it would be a proper length TT.

End of first week ITTs should be at least 50 kms

So what if Remco would go full Indurain at Luxembourg or Ullrich in the MTT in 1997. The Pog would have to attack in the high mountains and we'd see a better TDF

Pog and Jonas will attack in the high mountains. That's what they do.

 

[Nick2413]

Remco wins and Pogacar takes 30s on Vingegaard.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Sticking with my 'tour de Happiness' mantra, I'd wager Kung or Jonas has this. Either way, Jonas will be in yellow by over a minute.

 

[Bolder]

I would be stunned if Jonas takes any significant time on Pogacar. He looked cooked after the Galibier stage. I'm calling Remco for the win, however.

 

[shadowrider]

So finally the first TT. One of two key stages of the first week. Generally fast TT but with an uphill section in the middle. Slightly under 30 minutes of effort for top guys. No holding back, a bit above the threshold all the time.

What to expect? Remco and Wout are natural candidates for victory. Remco is obviously in great form, maybe it will be his TT? The relative performance of GC guys is the most interesting thing here. I'm expecting Teddy to have a very strong performance as well, he can be close to Remco. Those two guys should IMO put time into other GC candidates but how much? Maybe 30-40 seconds to the best of the rest (Vingo, Rogla, Ayuso?). Pogacar, who looks the strongest in this part of the race, definitely needs to gain time over Vingo and stay close to Remco as well. Should be interesting.

What about Ayuso ? He won already 3 TT and is also in great form, as we could see on Galibier. Maybe able to finish third or fourth. Almeida is also a good TT-rider, a bit less than Ayuso. He did won the TT in the Tour de Suisse (but a semi-climbing TT).

 

[Froome]

For this year I wonder how much I should view the Tirreno and Itzulia stage 1 ITTs as indicative for Vingegaards TT level for this when fresh and on good but not superb form.

Let's also not forget about the setup TT of Visma.

 

[pihi42]

Pog and Jonas will attack in the high mountains. That's what they do.

Jonas for sure, but Pogi .. you must be watching another Tadej. What he does is - attack whenever he finds himself in the front. He's probably the only cyclist that even attacks in ITT's.

 

[Cookster15]

Either way, Jonas will be in yellow by over a minute.

You are joking? Pogacar has a 50 second gap on Vingegaard now. For Jonas to be in yellow by over a minute he would need to defeat Pogacar by nearly two minutes in just 25km.

More likely based upon what we have seen so far Pogacar will take an extra 30 seconds on Vinge - maybe more.

 

[Froome]

Did they do an upgrade again or is it still as *** as earlier this season?

That's a good question, and i would like to know the answer.

 

[Netserk]

Let me put my expectations like this: If I can buy a 40" time loss for Vingegaard to Pogi before the stage, I'll gladly take it.