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Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 7: Nuits-Saint-Georges > Gevrey-Chambertin, 25.3 km (ITT)

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Froome

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willbick said:
i think tomorrow we will see the result of Ving's long lay-off. He probably has barely ridden his TT bike in months and said he hasn't even been able to do an in-person recon of the course. At this level you don't suddenly produce a world-class TT result after little to no preparation. I think he will be a long way off the winning time
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More important than the training in his TT bike, is if the shape will be there.
If the shape will be there, it will not be an issue.

Look at Van der poel in 2021. The shape was there, he finded a good TT position and did a great ITT.

Nevertheless, he trained his TT bike at least 2 times in the last month and half!

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Kazistuta said:
So who's a candidate for the outer top10 placings? Armirail, Lampaert, Vauquelin and Oliviera perhaps.

Lots more interesting that picking the top3, which seems pretty consensual in here.
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Can't imagine Lampaert. This is a bit too long for him to really get a top result, also others will have managed the first week efforts better than him. And the uphill section doesn't favor him either. I could see him take it easy and come in 80th or so. Probably guys like Armirail, Küng, Vlasov, Van Wilder, Jorgenson, Gee, Oliveira, Vauquelin, Wellens, Bettiol, Kelderman, Campenaerts... would all have a shot at a top 10 on this parcours. But i can imagine some of them might not want to go all out in case they have different goals/duties. Some of those guys are (super) domestiques, others are out of GC contention and know they can't win the TT, so might want to save energy for going in breaks next week. Difficult to predict.
 
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1. Remco
2. Pogacar +:10
3. Roglic +:15
4. Almeida +:30
5. Ayuso +:40
6. Vingegaard +:50
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Carlos Rodriguez +1:30
Non GC guys sprinkled in starting somewhere around Vingegaard. I won’t be shocked if I’m wrong, but based on how Vingegaard looked after he got over the Galibier, I expect him to be much closer to his rusty Vuelta 2023 performance where he lost 1:10 to Remco and :55 to Roglic than to last year’s all time performance.
 
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
Can't imagine Lampaert. This is a bit too long for him to really get a top result, also others will have managed the first week efforts better than him. And the uphill section doesn't favor him either. I could see him take it easy and come in 80th or so. Probably guys like Armirail, Küng, Vlasov, Van Wilder, Jorgenson, Gee, Oliveira, Vauquelin, Wellens, Bettiol, Kelderman, Campenaerts... would all have a shot at a top 10 on this parcours. But i can imagine some of them might not want to go all out in case they have different goals/duties. Some of those guys are (super) domestiques, others are out of GC contention and know they can't win the TT, so might want to save energy for going in breaks next week. Difficult to predict.
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Maybe Van Wilder can equalise against Armirail to 1-1!
 
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Last year's Vuelta, the TT was a day after a GC day. Evenepoel was not at his best (imho), neither was Vingegaard. Distance of that TT was almost exactly the same as this one, 25.8km, but it was flatter. Evenepoel still took over 1 minute out of Vingegaard. After seeing Vingegaard struggle on the flat parts after Galibier, and with the news that he has not been training on his TT bike a lot after his crash, it would surprise me if he can stay close.

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Do we have any chance of rain? People are forgetting Wout, this is a TT for powerful guys
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How long has it been since he has crushed a TT? Two years?
 
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I wonder if MVDP will make an effort tomorrow. He was 5th in the 27km TT that some have compared to this one, but didn't put in much of an effort in last year's TDF TT. In 2021 he was battling for the yellow jersey.
 
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saunaking said:
For 20 years we have heard about the difficulty/impossibility of the Giro/Tour double.
And yet everyone expects Pogi to smash this TT

Something rotten in the state of Slovenia
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Pogacar has/had the perfect conditions to do the double.
Easy Giro route + very weak competition so he should've came out fresh.
As for the Tour his main (only) competitor was suffering major injuries and his condition is questionable.
 
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RobertCrawley said:
L'épreuve de vérité. Yes it is.
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This...

First thing, this stage is HUGE for Remco. If he wants to be relevant for the win (and that's the expectation for a generational rider like him), he can't lose and find himself over a minute behind Pogacar...he needs to make his gains where he can: Go Remco!

Jonas has the excuse of the long layoff, him losing Le Tour would not be the end, but this stage is HUGe (not HUGE like Remco), he's a two-time and reigning Champion. We take him lightly but I would not be surprised if he wins.

HUge for Roglic, stay alive against the other three. That's his chance to assert himself into the discussion.

Huge for Pogacar who can repeat the Giro scenario. He can make is buffer very chubby indeed...

huge for Carapaz, his road to a podium has to start here.

uge for Rodriguez: a top-5 in Nice with this field would be a great accomplishment. And for Martin too: he's not 8th yet, so he can't afford a bad day. The same goes for Landa, and no he won't lose three minutes...about two...

ge: the doms trying to stay alive for three weeks in the top-10 chase while helping a leader will want to benefit without looking like they are not entirely committed to the team: Juan, Matteo, and of course Joao. Also, can Simon pull a rabbit out of his bike? It would be nice...

e: and that should be an E- for David Gaudu. What is happening? I'm gutted...he's not The New Pinot... (expletive)
 
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Tonton said:
This...

First thing, this stage is HUGE for Remco. If he wants to be relevant for the win (and that's the expectation for a generational rider like him), he can't lose and find himself over a minute behind Pogacar...he needs to make his gains where he can: Go Remco!

Jonas has the excuse of the long layoff, him losing Le Tour would not be the end, but this stage is HUGe (not HUGE like Remco), he's a two-time and reigning Champion. We take him lightly but I would not be surprised if he wins.

HUge for Roglic, stay alive against the other three. That's his chance to assert himself into the discussion.

Huge for Pogacar who can repeat the Giro scenario. He can make is buffer very chubby indeed...

huge for Carapaz, his road to a podium has to start here.

uge for Rodriguez: a top-5 in Nice with this field would be a great accomplishment. And for Martin too: he's not 8th yet, so he can't afford a bad day. The same goes for Landa, and no he won't lose three minutes...about two...

ge: the doms trying to stay alive for three weeks in the top-10 chase while helping a leader will want to benefit without looking like they are not entirely committed to the team: Juan, Matteo, and of course Joao. Also, can Simon pull a rabbit out of his bike? It would be nice...

e: and that should be an E- for David Gaudu. What is happening? I'm gutted...he's not The New Pinot... (expletive)
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I hope the next French Tour de France winner happens in my lifetime.
 
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I feel that Remco will be rather pissed if he doesn't win this stage, leaders jerseys likely out of reach. Team UAE is saying that TT bike is more aero and around 1,5kg lighter, then the one from Giro and that calculations show Pogi would put additional 40s in the time he did at Giro, beating Ganna. Now i find that a bit far fetched but OK, what they are trying to say is Remco you better get your act together, tomorrow. Jonas is saying something in the lines of i didn't even check the route. Now if he surprises tomorrow then we know they are full of it. Realistically he should be behind other favourites. Rogla moving in top 3 GC tomorrow, that would be perfect, anything more than that comes down to some additional prestige.
 
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Th e TT will shape the racing for the next week. No hiding and the end of some dreams of winning the Tour for some guys.
Vingegaard and especially Roglic need to beat Pogacar. Remco needs desperately to win and is probably favourite to do so. As these guys have struggled against Pogacar going uphill, this is a golden opportunity to get a podium spot.
 
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Giro stage 7, hilly ITT, Pogi beat Ganna by 16 seconds in 40.6km
World ITT last year, slightly hilly ITT, Evenepoel beat Ganna by 12 seconds in 47.8km

You'd expect Ganna be in good form for both. Pogi is in better form now than the Giro and Evenepoel is in better form now than last year. In a shorter TT, I expect it will favour Pogi. Pogi will win this stage not Evenepoel
 
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