That would be strange. Would that be on the La Plagne stage?
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So he was pretty close to Pog in level. Also, it's not 10 watts, but 10 watts on average for the duration.
By Chronowatts.
Vingegaard was 10 Watts slower than Pogacar on Plateau de beille.
Pogacar 473 Watts
Vingegaard 463 Watts.
Standard powers (70 kg).
No LFR is saying that based on the fact that the roumor says the stage will finish on Col de la Loze (Courchevel). In 2020 it was Col de la Loze (Meribel). But tough side of Loze before a finish on La Plagne would be better than most TdF mountain stages, so let's hope they do both. Then the previous climbs could end up mattering on the Loze MTFas well. So two possibly great stages rather than zero..!
Yeah, still too stupid... I guess I'm still influenced by thinking about the power to weight ratio regarding the individual riders, rather than it just obviously being the metric to measure climbing performances by.
Yes, i also said that, but it is for the two riders, to have a fair comparation. Standard weight.
Okay guys, why are we talking about that stuff?
I thought about some of the issues regarding the weekends. Here is the issue: Transfer from an Alps MTF towards Paris is quite lavish. A stage 20 mountain or hill stage is very rare in general at the tour. Pyrenees on the stage 8, 9, 10 weekend likely is to early for the route they take in the north. The weekend afterwards would be to late because you still have to ride to the Alps. Only thing they could have done better may have been to put the Mont Ventoux on stage 15.
I thought about some of the issues regarding the weekends. Here is the issue: Transfer from an Alps MTF towards Paris is quite lavish. A stage 20 mountain or hill stage is very rare in general at the tour. Pyrenees on the stage 8, 9, 10 weekend likely is to early for the route they take in the north. The weekend afterwards would be to late because you still have to ride to the Alps. Only thing they could have done better may have been to put the Mont Ventoux on stage 15.
Only if we ignore this year, last year, 2019, 2016, 2015, 2013, and 2009.
I just saw the preliminary and it looks awful. Apart from two good stages in the mountains. Power climbs like in 2021.
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Ventoux, a MTT and Loze (Pog's krptonite) - looks appetizing. When we the last time the Tour had a Mountain Time Trial ?
After what we have seen this season I am almost relieved they haven't put AdH on he menu. I fear what Pogacar might do to Marco's record.
After what we have seen this season I am almost relieved they haven't put AdH on he menu. I fear what Pogacar might do to Marco's record.
"Hill" stages sure but not so a proper MTT. When was the MTT in 2019? The Val Thoren's stage wasn't a MTT. And was Combloux last year a proper MTT? I think the last true MTT in the Tour was 2004 to AdH?
This is an example of what I consider to be a proper MTT. I hope the Tour organizers can include something similar in 2025:
Stage profiles Giro d'Italia 2010 Stage 16 (ITT)
Stage profile, mountains profiles, final five kilometre profile, race map, steepness percentage profiles for Giro d'Italia 2010.
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A true MTT since 2004 but we had the infamous 2020 LPDBF MTT.
They should do that as just a road stage.I would say that the perfect MTT would be something like this:
Mountain road race stage, not TT was what I thought was meant."Hill" stages sure but not so a proper MTT. When was the MTT in 2019? The Val Thoren's stage wasn't a MTT. And was Combloux last year a proper MTT? I think the last true MTT in the Tour was 2004 to AdH?
This is an example of what I consider to be a proper MTT. I hope the Tour organizers can include something similar in 2025:
Stage profiles Giro d'Italia 2010 Stage 16 (ITT)
Stage profile, mountains profiles, final five kilometre profile, race map, steepness percentage profiles for Giro d'Italia 2010.
"Hill" stages sure but not so a proper MTT. When was the MTT in 2019? The Val Thoren's stage wasn't a MTT. And was Combloux last year a proper MTT? I think the last true MTT in the Tour was 2004 to AdH?
This is an example of what I consider to be a proper MTT. I hope the Tour organizers can include something similar in 2025:
Stage profiles Giro d'Italia 2010 Stage 16 (ITT)
Stage profile, mountains profiles, final five kilometre profile, race map, steepness percentage profiles for Giro d'Italia 2010.
Id call the 2013 ty a true mtt. Up and down 2 mountains
What do we think about the Bastille Day stage? Are they really going to do that transfer to the Mastiff Central. I do think you could do a fun stage that finished at Puy de Sancy, especially with how desperate for climbs the big guys will be- plus the French and climbers will want to attack. I wonder what that stage will like,
It's good. It will probably be better than the usual Super Besse finish.
Something like this, but they'll start closer, so can even do a long loop and go to Super Besse first.
I think Croix Saint-Robert is perhaps the best bet for the penultimate climb:So as an example of what that could plausibly look like:
Montluçon > Mont-Dore
190.0 km, +4572 m. Bike ride in Montluçon, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpesridewithgps.com
Nothing brutal and no steep climbs like stage 11 this year, but still very good for a July 14 stage and it gives room for wild GC moves too.
Just as an idea, you know. You always can continue to dream. Pogi would destroy that one likely, but it would be THE Jonas stage.
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