Is the drinking game on?Tomorrow is gonna be fun for CN forum.
Is the drinking game on?Tomorrow is gonna be fun for CN forum.
I don't buy it, though. TdF hasn't had a non mountain non ITT stage 20 since 2001.
In what way are the years you mention different from the years since 2001 that you don't mention in this regard?stage 20 of 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2022
even 2002 and 2005 were not exactly MTTs
notice when they largely stopped
what that dweeb Gouvenou took over. Had one in 2014 and promptly stopped it for the most part
non mountain non ITT. Meaning either a time trial or a mountain stage. The Tour "always" (as of this century) ends with either a mountain stage or a TT followed by Champs Elysees.stage 20 of 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2022
So there's simply no way the final stage is a normal road stage between Nantua and Pontarlier. And with all that talk about a stage with an "unprecedented format" I think that might still be on for stage 20. It's either that or at least one of the locations is wrong.non mountain non ITT. Meaning either a time trial or a mountain stage. The Tour "always" (as of this century) ends with either a mountain stage or a TT followed by Champs Elysees.
So there's simply no way the final stage is a normal road stage between Nantua and Pontarlier. And with all that talk about a stage with an "unprecedented format" I think that might still be on for stage 20. It's either that or at least one of the locations is wrong.
Check my post from earlier. You will be disappointed.Given that they are around Jura I'd think they can do it a hard hilly stage (can't they?) which may be just about the single best thing of the whole route.
Seems lke there will be a lot to complain about tomorrow.Check my post from earlier. You will be disappointed.
It will land somewhere in the 2009, 2012 and 2017 group as one of the worst Tour routes of the past 20 years. Exact spot dependent on specifics to be announced tomorrow, although it can't be worse than 2009. They really don't deserve to get bailed out by Pogacar and Vingegaard again, and there's an argument to be made it would be better in the long run if they don't.This route seems horrible, it's like a route from the 1990/00's but with less ITT and much tamer mountain stages.
That 2009 route didn’t even the excuse of going through the flat north which this one has to doIt will land somewhere in the 2009, 2012 and 2017 group as one of the worst Tour routes of the past 20 years. Exact spot dependent on specifics to be announced tomorrow, although it can't be worse than 2009. They really don't deserve to get bailed out by Pogacar and Vingegaard again, and there's an argument to be made it would be better in the long run if they don't.
The type of stages they put on weekends deserves a instant dismissalThis route seems horrible, it's like a route from the 1990/00's but with less ITT and much tamer mountain stages.
2009 at least had Le Grand Bornard which was a very good stage.That 2009 route didn’t even the excuse of going through the flat north which this one has to do
In what way are the years you mention different from the years since 2001 that you don't mention in this regard?
It will land somewhere in the 2009, 2012 and 2017 group as one of the worst Tour routes of the past 20 years. Exact spot dependent on specifics to be announced tomorrow, although it can't be worse than 2009. They really don't deserve to get bailed out by Pogacar and Vingegaard again, and there's an argument to be made it would be better in the long run if they don't.
Seeing Pogacar handle a route of 18 sprints, 1 hill stage, 1 20k individual time trial and 1 medium mountain stage would be fun, lol. Would you guys take him or the field in that scenario?2012 route could have featured Pogacar, Vingegaard, Pantani, Jordan, Ali, Messi and Ronaldo and it would have been garbage all the same.