Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 15: Muret – Carcassonne (169.3k)

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Schmid is struggling with some achilles tendon pain anyway, so it probably didn't make much of a difference for your guys

I realise that Schmid is suffering which I posted at the beginning of the thread. My post was solely about the general principle of 30 or 35 riders not waiting ( no break at this stage ) not waiting for the peleton when a crash decimated the peleton.
 
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Damm. Simmons is the only other one who will chase properly in that group.
Simmons is wise beyond his years!! @3 times already he just does the right thing, takes his turn at the front, understanding that they have to work together to make the catch but others clods won't pull!! Wellens has put a minute and 35 into the disorganization.. Simmons is beyond frustrated.. Guy just wants to race!!
 
Jorgenson made some horrible statements against Pogacar last year after Isola.

But we must defend Jorgenson, who threw *** at a fellow professional.

Visma was also chasing Pogacar on the Paris stage. He was seven minutes behind. But Jorgenson's situation is due to those crappy statements, even though Pogacar had never said or done anything against him at that moment

Jorgenson is a guy who trashed Movistar in an interview after he left. But he's a victim.

I never believed Jorgensen's claims that he had to pay for his own altitude camps and all the bits and pieces when he was at the Movistar. I don't dispute that Movistar would not offer the same silver service as Jumbo but I find it hard to believe that movistar paid for nothing.
 
I never believed Jorgensen's claims that he had to pay for his own altitude camps and all the bits and pieces when he was at the Movistar. I don't dispute that Movistar would not offer the same silver service as Jumbo but I find it hard to believe that movistar paid for nothing.
If you follow Romeo and other Movistar cyclists on Instagram and interviews,, you'll see that many things were lies.
In any case, Jorgenson shouldn't have done that interview about the team that gave him the opportunity when no Pro team wanted him.
 
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Why shouldn't EF and Uno X defend the positions of Healy and Johannsen. The teams and riders have worked hard to get into the position. They would be derelict in their duty if they do not chance.
It's more a problem of the UCI's points system that bottom end top 10 positions are that worth protecting which encourages negative racing rather than incentivising those guys from making gains - given his gains have largely been accumulated through doing what Jegat is doing now, but doing it better, I don't really get criticism of Healy here tbh. I understand why a top 10 should be protected here more than elsewhere (I'm more lenient at the Tour because of its higher importance to global sponsorship exposure etc.) but anything beyond that is pretty overkill, and the fact that the time gaps are pretty colossal down to where they are on the GC means it seems a bit ridiculous to be preserving - it's not so much like many races we've seen in the last 20 years where time gaps are a matter of under a minute at that part of the GC. The thing is that by and large, those are positions that do not need heavy domestique input to preserve because they are often able to be accumulated by the classic "fall backwards as slowly as possible" method where you can rely on the top GC riders' teams to defend.

And that these guys have been climbing better than Jegat and can be expected to pass him on Mont Ventoux again tomorrow, so it seems like an unnecessary expenditure of effort - much like Garmin trying to limit the break's gains in the stupid Pau stage in 2010 to prevent Chris Horner and Rubén Plaza threatening Ryder Hesjedal's 10th place, only for Hesjedal to completely outclimb them and others around him on the following MTF, since they'd been in the break over four major mountains the previous day, and end up finishing well ahead of both of them anyway.