Tour de France Tour de France 2025, Stage 16: Montpellier to Mont Ventoux, 171.5 km

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Genuine question, when was the last time we've had a good green jersey battle in the third week? I cannot recall a single one but this is the second time I can remember where there was gonna be one but then one of the candidates abandons.

In other words, why can't we have nice things?
Someone on this board has NOT been eating their vegetables, that's why! And I know
just how to find out who it is! :p

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Jonathan Milan seems as one of the weakest winners of the green jersey. Philipsen didn't have as many difficulties. Milan couldn't even reach certain intermediate sprints because he fell droppe early.

I don't understand why he's complaining about the points. They can't make it any easier for him; if he doesn't win, it's because he didn't score points in the last two intermediate sprints.

View: https://x.com/laflammerouge16/status/1947564336475513078
 
Jonathan Milan seems as one of the weakest winners of the green jersey. Philipsen didn't have as many difficulties. Milan couldn't even reach certain intermediate sprints because he fell droppe early.

I don't understand why he's complaining about the points. They can't make it any easier for him; if he doesn't win, it's because he didn't score points in the last two intermediate sprints.

View: https://x.com/laflammerouge16/status/1947564336475513078
I liked the italian bull, not anymore (I don't dislike though). He is not even the best sprinter and can't climb a single hill, he shouldn't win the green jersey.
 
I liked the italian bull, not anymore (I don't dislike though). He is not even the best sprinter and can't climb a single hill, he shouldn't win the green jersey.
Philipsen would have scored points in the later stages. That's Milan's fault, not for awarding 50 points to other stages.

Taking away more points would be a complete discredit to the jersey, which is increasingly devalued by making the intermediate sprints so easy at the start of some stages.
 
Remind me about the second?

look at about 27/28 mins in

Nieve was very good on that mountain that year....SKY immediately bought him

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18bpG1qW4aY&t=1862s



This Tour was the first time i remember Quintana
Also how strong Richie Porte was on some days and MIA on others
Contador and Kreuziger (who had his best Tour ever) threw the kitchen sink at Froome but to no avail
Also the beginning of Carlton Kirby never ending eulogising and adoration of C Froome who he never mentioned again after his accident
 
Jonathan Milan seems as one of the weakest winners of the green jersey. Philipsen didn't have as many difficulties. Milan couldn't even reach certain intermediate sprints because he fell droppe early.

I don't understand why he's complaining about the points. They can't make it any easier for him; if he doesn't win, it's because he didn't score points in the last two intermediate sprints.

View: https://x.com/laflammerouge16/status/1947564336475513078
Milan's taken a step back this year, IMO. Last year he was climbing up the Kemmelberg alongside VdP (briefly), putting in good performances in Dwars, and competing in hilly sprint stages in the Giro. Now he's climbing like Tim Merlier.
 
This is the first stage I'll be watching since stage 7. It seems that Pogačar has been dominating as expected, Vingegaard has continued to be the best of the rest, Roglič has been on a nice holiday in France, Remco has added another "what if" to his list, and Visma have kept annoying UAE and vice versa.

While I haven't been following the race too closely, my mind has still wondered about cycling almost constantly everywhere I've been for the past week and a half. I have for instance bought fuel from TotalEnergies and water from Gerolsteiner, walked past a place called Bini's Bar, spotted some Picnic riders on a training ride, as well as a Jayco rider who I think was Patrick Gamper, and seen someone who looked a little bit like Kathrin Schweinberger if she had gained a few pounds.
 
On the whole "green points" debate, there seems to be two schools of thought:

Those who believe green should be a competition for the sprinters
Those who believe green should be a competition for all riders

Personally I think it devalues both green and the polka dots if they are won by the same rider who wins yellow, and I'd like to see a greater separation from the GC riders in how both jerseys are scored:

1. I think there should be no green points on a finish on a categorised climb
2. I think there should be no polka dot points on a finishing climb above cat. 2
 
Wind appear to have picked up compared to the forecasts.

There may be a chance at echelons at points of the first 140K.

The pre-stage interviews with Danish Uno-X and EF riders say their tactic is to ferry their captain (Johannessen and Healy) to the bottom of the climb with the peloton - and both teams expect UAE to ride for the stage win.
 
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On the whole "green points" debate, there seems to be two schools of thought:

Those who believe green should be a competition for the sprinters
Those who believe green should be a competition for all riders

There's a third, recently emerged, school of thought.
Those who believe green should be won by Milan since Italian riders have won nothing of relevance for like a decade.
Admittedly it's a pretty obscure school of thought outside of the Belpaese.
 
How is the wind on the ascend, hows going to affect the race? killing attacks?
While NW wind should mean block headwind in the finale, it should mean cross/tailwind in the initial false flat sprint to the steep section, and crosswind in the steep forested section, where the race should blow apart before Chalet Reynard anyway. If you're sitting on domestiques until then, you're just not going fast enough anyway
 
Now he's gone too fat. UCI needs to stop this man!

STOP THE FATSHAMING! :p



Bit of a sad detail:
Lund revealed in an interview before the start that Andreas Byskov - the Danish junior who was tragically killed during a race in Denmark back in 2019 - has his ashes spread out over Mont Ventoux.
Which, I guess, means that if Skjelmose had still been in the race, he'd have been trying his best to get a good result.