Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 19: Albertville-La Plagne (93.1k) ‚Historic day, magnificent racing‘ ~ Rob Hatch, probably

[snipeheem]

What else is he supposed to say in the media?

Tour is over i want to win a stage.

 

[Jagartrott]

The way people on here talk about the cyclists is mental.....they have just ridden one of the hardest Tours ever and such hard stages with multiple climbs....in their place you would all be in the broomwagon keyboard warriers

behave !!!

If I had Vingegaard's ability, I wouldn't have raced like this today.
Is that mental to say, gramps?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

You really don't.

Pogacar was not willing to lose it to Vingegaard.

Vingegaard was not willing to lose it to Pogacar.

So why the hell does all the blame fall on Vingegaard?

Because Pogacar has 4 stages and the yellow jersey and Vingo doesn't have either, that's why.

 

[dr.eve]

He could attack the stage - not necessarily Pogacar.

He does if he assumes Pogacar wanted to win, letting Pogacar do the front on the climb and see if he can beat him for the stage in the end. The Tour so far has shown that he can not drop Pogacar, so why try earlier? If he tries earlier he also spends his energy he could use in one final attempt at the end.

 

[madthebad]

Look I'm not a Vingegaard supporter and also not a Pogacar supporter. From that perspective I do not care which one of them takes the stage.
I did hope for more competition in GC earlier, that Vingegaard would catch up. But today that of course was not at stake, he's 4 min down. Why would he attack Pogacar? The best chance he has is to let Pogacar work the climb and try beat him at the end. And Pogacar also wanted to win right?

Pogacar has 4 stage wins and the TDF in his pocket, maybe he would have gifted Vingegaard a win . Vingegaard has nothing after this TDF , zero , null , void . Maybe he beats you one more time but you can't suck wheels like that in his situations with 200m to go , it just doesn't look good .

 

[proffate]

The only people mad right now are Vingegaard haters who wanted to see him smashed in a sprint and feel deprived because there wasn't really a sprint and Pog lost whatever there was.

 

[Salvarani]

You really don't.

Pogacar was not willing to lose it to Vingegaard.

Vingegaard was not willing to lose it to Pogacar.

So why the hell does all the blame fall on Vingegaard?

No blame, just lost respect.

He should have sat on Pog wheel in the end. Kept his dignity.

But still he tried to win it like a coward.

He wouldnt have lost respect if he had tried something earlier and raced for it.

 

[will-10]

Reminder: The Tour is not over

 

[E_F_]

It blows my mind how people always know the correct tactics here after the stage is finished. If Vingegaard had opened up 500m earlier and then been passed by Pogacar before the line, he had been lambasted for being stupid. He had one shot at working out the dilemma of not leading out Pog while leaving enough time to catch Arensman. He mistimed it by a few seconds. I don't see what other strategy he could have employed. He's clearly not gonna drop Pogacar on a shallow-ish headwind climb when he hasn't dropped him one single time so far.

It annoys me so much, it's unbelievable. For once we see some perfectly reasonable tactical racing and it only just doesn't pay off. Somehow people are pissed at this..? Reality is they'd rather see Jonas trying an obviously doomed strategy and having it fail spectacularly. I'd rather see the riders actually going for the stage win, but I guess I'm weird like that.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Tour is over i want to win a stage.

He already hinted at his intention for a stage by saying it’s not over 🙄

 

[dr.eve]

If I had Vingegaard's ability, I wouldn't have raced like this today.
Is that mental to say, gramps?

But you don't have his ability nor current fitness so you wouldn't know at all how you would have raced.

 

[Nerlo]

Pogacar fans showing their mental level again. Yikes. Grow up.

I'm not a pogi fan. I'm a cycling fan. Visma and Vingo have killed this tour

 

[Danskebjerge]

nope , just the last 300-400 meters .

So should Pogacar?

 

[will-10]

The only people mad right now are Vingegaard haters who wanted to see him smashed in a sprint and feel deprived because there wasn't really a sprint and Pog lost whatever there was.

some men just want to see the world burn

 

[pastronef]

WOW, grande Arensman. I am over the moon for him and INEOS

 

[Danskebjerge]

I'm not a pogi fan. I'm a cycling fan. Visma and Vingo have killed this tour

Pogacar has killed this Tour and cycling in general.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

If I had Vingegaard's ability, I wouldn't have raced like this today.
Is that mental to say, gramps?

well you dont know what the issue is ...nor why he didn't t attack and you never will ...
and stop with the name calling

 

[ontheroad]

Great rides from Lipowitz, Onley and Gall though. The GC is now probably reflective of the overall race.

Roglic losing 12 minutes would probably indicate that his days of riding for GC may be nearing an end.

 

[snipeheem]

He already hinted at his intention for a stage by saying it’s not over 🙄

https://twitter.com/x/status/1948733124487381141

View: https://x.com/vingeupdates/status/1948733124487381141

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar looked cooked. Lucky the route was shortened today

Oh C'mon mate... don't start again...

 

[dr.eve]

It annoys me so much, it's unbelievable. For once we see some perfectly reasonable tactical racing and it only just doesn't pay off. Somehow people are pissed at this..? Reality is they'd rather see Jonas trying an obviously doomed strategy and having it fail spectacularly. I'd rather see the riders actually going for the stage win, but I guess I'm weird like that.

Funny part is that when Vingegaard did try to attack earlier on in other stages the same people would say things a long the lines of "how dare he attack" "fail strategy" etc.

 

[E_F_]

you still have to try and go for the win

He literally did...

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

No blame, just lost respect.

He should have sat on Pog wheel in the end. Kept his dignity.

But still he tried to win it like a coward.

He wouldnt have lost respect if he had tried something earlier and raced for it.

Respect for throwing his best chance at a stage win away? Really?

 

[Nerlo]

Pogacar has killed this Tour and cycling in general.

Obviously, if you have an aversion to panache

 

[Miha81]

There will be some very low grades on this years edition of TDF. At this point I almost hope that Jonas and Tadej skip Vuelta...