Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 19: Albertville-La Plagne (93.1k) ‚Historic day, magnificent racing‘ ~ Rob Hatch, probably

[Red Rick]

The entire top 5 rode a tactically smart race today.

As for Primoz Roglic, lay off the hallucinogenics plz

 

[QueenStagiaire]

No. I just happen to understand game theory.

I‘m sure this will help him all the other times he‘s four minutes behind and does fuckall. I hope he feels great about not winning, finishing ahead of Pogačar and not trying to win the Tour de France. I thought game theory was about winning, but maybe he can get Pogačar to skip the Tour 2030 because the mind games are tiring. Seriously, though, what is the game theoretical advantage? Showing Pogačar that you‘re a coward and that he‘s slightly less of a coward? Or showing him that if he doesn‘t try hard enough, you‘re sure not gonna try anything ever because you don‘t have any confidence?

 

[Berniece]

Oh C'mon mate... don't start again...

What do you mean again? I barely said anything about Pogacar this TDF. He just wasn't able to close the gap to Arensman and win the stage, and then couldn't win the sprint from Vingegaard. Thus looked cooked. Probably because 90% of the work fell on his shoulders during the climb.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I do think Pogacar is tired, physically and mentally. I think he's just wants to get to Paris and then go home and rest.

 

[snipeheem]

Pogacar looked cooked. Lucky the route was shortened today

Yep he is lucky if it wasnt for shortened route he will probably end like Remco the other day

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Ben Heasly is up to 8th ...the tenacious little devil

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

People complain about too few sponsors in this sport.

But as long as Uno-X is a team, there is always one too many

Uno x is really useless.

Unox idiots dropped their own leader.

If they wanted to benefit themselves they would race a lot differently, but they don't, so they don't.

Seems like things worked out pretty perfect for Uno-X in the end, eh?

 

[Boehmand]

For the life of me I cannot understand people are in here defending Vingegaard, when we ALL know he missed a (much needed) win by 2 seconds

We all saw the same thing, that he initially gapped Pogacar a little when he went and closed in on Arensman fast, and that Pogacar just caught his wheel basically on the line - we all understand he could have won had he gone a few seconds earlier.

So what are you defending?

 

[Salvarani]

Respect for throwing his best chance at a stage win away? Really?

No respect for this ride at all. It was shameless.

Should have just sat on the wheel after that. He would have kept his dignity.

 

[dr.eve]

But then he still tried to win the stage in the end... thats when he looks like a coward.

He should have just not tried in the end, if that was his plan.

Now he just loses respect for this ride.

Hahaha come on... This is just hilarious. 'He should have just not tried in the end"? Really??

 

[Jan the Man]

Chapeau Arensman.

Vigno rolled the dice for a stage win by sitting on and that failed. It's cycling.

Pog will.finish the Tour with the overall and 4 stage wins. Excellent by any measure.

 

[RobertCrawley]

No explosion from Pog...

Everyone expected it, but Christian VDP said the riders looked like dead men walking up that final climb.

 

[Red Rick]

I‘m sure this will help him all the other times he‘s four minutes behind and does fuckall. I hope he feels great about not winning, finishing ahead of Pogačar and not trying to win the Tour de France. I thought game theory was about winning, but maybe he can get Pogačar to skip the Tour 2030 because the mind games are tiring. Seriously, though, what is the game theoretical advantage? Showing Pogačar that you‘re a coward and that he‘s slightly less of a coward? Or showing him that if he doesn‘t try hard enough, you‘re sure not gonna try anything ever because you don‘t have any confidence?

When the Tour is lost, you think about next year.

Sometimes the best you can do is lose as little as possible. And in this case the only thing you can do is not drag Pogacar to another win. Give him nothing for free.

 

[RedheadDane]

Congrats to Thymen Arensman - held the chasing wolves at bay. Two stage wins for him!

Best QS rider was VPP in 9th, almost 4 minutes down. Pretty easy to keep at bay.

What's this about "signs"?

Just me being annoyed that the graphics department didn't want people to know how close the finish was.

 

[E_F_]

Obviously, if you have an aversion to panache

Because Pogacar has shown soooo much panache this Tour, right?

 

[Peyroteo94]

What do you mean again? I barely said anything about Pogacar this TDF. He just wasn't able to close the gap to Arensman and win the stage, and then couldn't win the sprint from Vingegaard. Thus looked cooked. Probably because 90% of the work fell on his shoulders during the climb.

You were clearly implying he would get dropped if the stage was longer.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Roglic losing 12 minutes would probably indicate that his days of riding for GC may be nearing an end.

If had lost them Vauquelin way then Yes, but that wasn't how it happened. It's possible he will never win another GT, but he's not exactly dead and gone yet.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Obviously, if you have an aversion to panache

I just like suspense in sports.

 

[madthebad]

well you dont know what the issue is ...nor why he didn't t attack and you never will ...
and stop with the name calling

I will tell you what Vingegaard's issue is , he is afraid of Pogacar , probably has nightmares with him and wakes up sweating in the middle of the night . Man's in love with Pogi's rear wheel . Shameless.

 

[Nerlo]

Because Pogacar has shown soooo much panache this Tour, right?

He didn't have to as no one was close and no one could be bothered to try.

 

[proffate]

Obviously, if you have an aversion to panache

Panache is refusing to give up in the face of overwhelming odds. The odds on favorite cannot really ride with panache.

 

[Jagartrott]

Terrible take, in order to win you must be willing to lose. He was maybe 100m off in his calculations.

This is getting hilarious. Now Vingegaard has become someone willing to risk losing (by sitting in the wheels). That's professional level mental gymnastics.

 

[Valv.Piti]

You really don't.

Pogacar was not willing to lose it to Vingegaard.

Vingegaard was not willing to lose it to Pogacar.

So why the hell does all the blame fall on Vingegaard?

Pogacar was willing to lose it to Jonas, thats why he paced in a headwind for 8 km lol. You could see he was visibly spent in the sprint. He didn't really have anythingg left.

Ofc all the blame is gonna fall on Jonas.

 

[Nerlo]

I just like suspense in sports.

There is nothing quite like suspense ebbing into an anticlimax

 

[Heston]

They didn't even give the combatif to Roglic. Somehow Arensman got it.