Tour de France Tour de France Femmes 2022 (July 24th-31st)

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if that's the case take your wins when you can get them
Fair enough if you think that, for me that is SD Worx essentially waving the white flag for GC.
It also still doesn't explain Canyon/SRAM tactics, they have three riders in the group with Niewiadoma in stellar form. Instead of putting time into AVV and EBL they run multiple 1on1 attacks and now have Amialiusik in no mans land, won't get the stage win and won't get time on GC either.
 
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Commentators claiming that being able to hear the DS's communication is something new when Sporza have done that in the Flemish races for ages.

Might still be something new for those commentators.
I've definitely never seen/heard it done before.
 
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Fair enough if you think that, for me that is SD Worx essentially waving the white flag for GC.
It also still doesn't explain Canyon/SRAM tactics, they have three riders in the group with Niewiadoma in stellar form. Instead of putting time into AVV and EBL they run multiple 1on1 attacks and now have Amialiusik in no mans land, won't get the stage win and won't get time on GC either.
Thats my takeaway from this stage as well. These teams could create carnage, but decided to play out some of their lesser riders instead of treating this as a super important GC-stage and take time off the others. Its a wildly different approach than the men, and Im not really sure I like it on this stage which is very similar to the cobbled stage.
 
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Really nice action filled stage. Whish they used it for the mens race as well, instead we got some washed down pave that made no difference in the end.
 
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Thats my takeaway from this stage as well. These teams could create carnage, but decided to play out some of their lesser riders instead of treating this as a super important GC-stage and take time off the others. Its a wildly different approach than the men, and Im not really sure I like it on this stage which is very similar to the cobbled stage.
It’s not the same as the cobbled stage
 
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Slightly breaking the illusion that this race is just like the (men’s) Tour de France when commentators apparently need to call it “Tour de France Femmes Avec Zwift” EVERY TIME. I guess they have strict rules to mention Zwift every time. And I guess Zwift sponsorship is important to make this happen. But still…
 
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Fair enough if you think that, for me that is SD Worx essentially waving the white flag for GC.
It also still doesn't explain Canyon/SRAM tactics, they have three riders in the group with Niewiadoma in stellar form. Instead of putting time into AVV and EBL they run multiple 1on1 attacks and now have Amialiusik in no mans land, won't get the stage win and won't get time on GC either.
well i agree with you about canyon/sram not riding but getting a stage for SD worx is a big deal.
I don't follow womens racing too closely so dont even know who SD's GC rider is or how likely she is to win this race but for me, just like Wout not waiting for Jonas was an ok decision, same here today
 
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Reusser wasn't among the riders I first thought about before the stage, but the strength is strength.
...both personal and team.

Tense day.
Mavi came out the worst of it.
The rest that managed to recover will be happy it ended the way it ended.

Shame the crowds aren't bigger.
The racing is excellent these days.
 
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well i agree with you about canyon/sram not riding but getting a stage for SD worx is a big deal.
I don't follow womens racing too closely so dont even know who SD's GC rider is or how likely she is to win this race but for me, just like Wout not waiting for Jonas was an ok decision, same here today
SD Worx is the top dog of women’s cycling. They could’ve won the stage with Kopecky from their team if it came from that main bunch, or attack with Vollering or Moolman-Pasio.
 
Aug 3, 2015
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Adam Blythe with a fantastic analysis of the race. I thought he was an idiot (based on this forum), but he genuinely made some very good points regarding how negatively the GC-riders raced instead of taking the opportunity to put the hammer down and do some real damage with the strength in numbers Canyon and SD Worx had. Missed opportunity indeed.
 
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Reusser has been strong this year, but has usely been brought back when she did the early SDW attacks, but this time it worked out. Four fine winners on the first four stages is pretty great.

Still SDW could have stopped Reusser and made her pull the group behind, but them helping other teams is not really in their DNA.

CSR had numbers and should have used Amialiusik to pace instead, cause she was never going to close the gap to Reusser.

FDJ probably hoped to set up a Brown attack, but that was made impossible by her mechanical. Le Net was their MVP today.
 
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Fair enough if you think that, for me that is SD Worx essentially waving the white flag for GC.
It also still doesn't explain Canyon/SRAM tactics, they have three riders in the group with Niewiadoma in stellar form. Instead of putting time into AVV and EBL they run multiple 1on1 attacks and now have Amialiusik in no mans land, won't get the stage win and won't get time on GC either.

BEX was the same - They had three riders and one had to go with Reusser, especially seeing the GC peleton has different priorities for the stage.
 
Reusser has been strong this year, but has usely been brought back when she did the early SDW attacks, but this time it worked out.
it worked because of ELBs puncture. Up to this point the gap was around 20 seconds and Trek still had 4 riders including Balsamo in the peloton. Balsamo gave ELB her bike, van Anrooij helped bring her back a bit and then van dijk took over make it back to the group.
 
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it worked because of ELBs puncture. Up to this point the gap was around 20 seconds and Trek still had 4 riders including Balsamo in the peloton. Balsamo gave ELB her bike, van Anrooij helped bring her back a bit and then van dijk took over make it back to the group.

Of course that changed the race dynamic completely, and she probably wouldn't have been able to hold on otherwise, though that would have made it possible for the other SDW riders to have countered.
 
Aug 3, 2015
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Now watch Anniemiek recover and completely destroy the peloton the last 2 days, and SD Worx sit there and say: "Hmm, I guess we actually should have tried to WIN the race".
 
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I thought there might have been a touch of "Jesus Christ, everybody's puncturing. Don't play nasty as it's probably your turn next". Many of these riders will not-so-fondly remember the ankle-deep gravel in the 2020 Giro.

I'm eyeing up the lengths of the crucial climbs in this one and starting to curse myself for not picking Kasia in the prediction game. I know that this kind of length climb is her threshold, but I still picked her for a 14km climb in Burgos and didn't pick her for a 7km climb here.

SD Worx can at least say they have something out of the race, but obviously they are aiming bigger and not risking the stage win for the GC may come back and bite them - however they know more about how Demi and Ash are feeling at any given time than most of us will, so maybe that is a bit of a sign in and of itself?

As for Ash's not having won any WWT races in her career to date, there's a couple of factors in that. Firstly, being in a team with the likes of Vos and van der Breggen over the years means she's been usurped as team leader since her time with Bigla, and secondly, the paucity of real climbing races on the Women's World Tour in its early years, which has allowed a small number of riders to bogart all of those results. Look at other climbers out there and their WWT win totals. Cille has 2 (a stage of Burgos and yesterday's TDF stage) and Kasia has 5 (two one day races (Amstel Gold and Binda), and two stages and the GC of the Women's Tour) for example - not many considering their prominence. Lippert and Labous are on one each (the former the Cadel Evans Great Ocean Road Race shortly before the pandemic, against a limited field, and the latter the GC of the Vuelta a Burgos). That's before we get to the likes of Pauliena Rooijakkers, Mavi García, Erica Magnaldi and Ane Santestebán, the latter of whom has gone 9 years since last winning at any level.

The relegation of the Giro Donne in 2021 means it's kind of a misnomer for Ash not to have any WWT wins too, since she won atop Monte Matajûr. She's also won stages and the GC at Emakumeen Bira, but not while it was WWT (including doing a complete number on Garfoot, Spratt and van Vleuten on Jaizkibel when outnumbered three to one), both Plumelec races in both 2017 and 2018, and a number of smaller races. She also finished 2nd in the queen stage and the GC of the Women's Tour in 2016, in the edition when Armitstead/Deignan was about to be yanked for avoiding doping controls, and won an extremely strong edition of the Boels Rentals Hills Classic back when there was no Amstel Gold Race so it fulfilled the function of that race.

So when you look at it, there's three races at least there that can be considered akin to WWT races but are not - two races which have been WWT but were not at the time she took a win, and one which was superseded by a new WWT race with more or less a similar field through the same area - and may have also acquired two through default if Lizzie's first missed test hadn't been scrubbed upon investigation.