For what it’s worth I’ve only (olympics aside) started watching womens road & cyclocross races this season and it’s been absolutely fantastic. The only trouble I’ve had is trying to learn a whole other peloton of riders so i know who to root for. Also, the more we watch it and post about it the bigger and better it will get. Watch the Femmes!
- Sep 26, 2020
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ASO earned the expected exposure from having one of the longest stages ever seen, but it didn't add much to the race, except for the huge crash. Kasia Niewiadoma said after the finish, that the extra length just made it boring and that there was no extra fatigue, because they were just riding slower than they would have done on a 130 km stage. And that view was shared with the other riders that Cycling Weekly spoke to.
Fortunetaly there wasn't a huge crash in that bend with 1.6 km to go. ELB could also easily have taken down most of the peloton afterwards, but luckily she only had to face her teammates' teasing after stage.
Fortunetaly there wasn't a huge crash in that bend with 1.6 km to go. ELB could also easily have taken down most of the peloton afterwards, but luckily she only had to face her teammates' teasing after stage.
It looked like Vos anticipated that she was about to turn the wrong way, and left an extra decimeter or two. With a less experienced rider in that position it could have been bad.
- Oct 13, 2021
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About the Malcotti DQ. The team should’ve gotten punished, not the rider, and your going to DQ her and not Frain is unbelievable.
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Well they didn't penalized UAE yesterday for consistent sticky bottling, car pacing and crashing into its own riders so with comissars this *** you shouldn't be surprised. its totally inconsequent , instead they decided to penalize 2 women for piing in public...
its mostly virtue-signalling men insisting on long stages equal to mens racing
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Stage 6
Saint-Dié-des-Vosges to Rosheim, 128.6 km
COMMENTARY FROM MARION ROUSSE
A rollercoaster stage with several small climbs scattered along the route. The last of these, on the final circuit around Rosheim, could prove decisive with less than ten kilometres to go. The crossing of the Alsatian winelands won’t be easy and a long breakaway could reward the breakaway specialists at the expense of the sprinters.
SAINT DIÉ DES VOSGES SIGHTS
Pierre Noël Museum
The Pierre-Noël Museum has recently undergone a facelift to improve the reception and comfort of visitors. The spaces dedicated to the 20th century, which are rooted in the destruction of the city in 1944, are now visible and open onto post-war issues in terms of architecture with Le Corbusier, design and industry with Jean Prouvé and art with the New School of Paris in particular...
Also to be discovered is the collection of Claire and Yvan Goll, figures of surrealism, as well as the abstraction of the 1950s through the works of Zao Wouki, Bazaine, Manessier, Fernand Léger, Pierre Didier...
The Claude and Duval factory
Built: 1946
Listing: Unesco World Heritage Site. Listed as a historical monument in 1988.
History: In July 1946, industrialist Jean-Jacques Duval entrusted Le Corbusier with the reconstruction of his hosiery factory, founded in 1908 and two-thirds destroyed in November 1944. The architect seized the opportunity to create a functional "green factory" that was 20 pc less expensive than a traditional building. The factory was rebuilt on its original site near the ruined cathedral.
Characteristics: Le Corbusier designed a project that is attached to one of the former workshops on the ground floor. The building, 80-metres long and about 12.50-metres wide, resembles a small housing unit mounted on stilts, three storeys high and covered with a self-contained roof terrace. Technically and plastically, the factory successfully combines a concrete frame with two blind gable walls made of reused pink sandstone. The ceilings are painted with brightly coloured rectangles. The resulting contrast of materials and colours places this work in the tradition of the villas of the 1930s, which already heralded the Brutalism of the post-war years. The largely glazed workshops are protected by concrete brise-soleils which play an aesthetic as well as a functional role. These were the first in Le Corbusier's work in France, only a few months before those of the Marseille Habitation Unit.
Current destination: the Manufacture de Saint-Dié-des-Vosges, Claude et Duval factory is a textile factory still in operation today. The company mainly manufactures luxury knitwear for women. The factory is listed as a Unesco World Heritage Site, as is the entire work of Le Corbusier.
Celtic camp of La Bure
Period: Second Iron Age.
Listing: listed as a historical monument in 1982,
Characteristics: La Bure is the second major archaeological site in Lorraine after Grand. Overlooking the Meurthe valley, the site consists of a naturally fortified rocky ridge, whose defensive character was reinforced from the 2nd century BC by a series of fortified works. Covering an area of 3 hectares, the site was the subject of several excavation campaigns between 1964 and 1986. These excavations brought to light the remains of craft activities (forge work, stone extraction, etc.), agricultural activities and cultural activities (sculpted representations of several divinities linked to the cults of Dianes, Jupiter and Mercury) as well as more than a thousand coins (Gallic and Roman) testifying to important exchanges.
20th century heritage
The whole of the town centre on the right bank of the second reconstruction of Saint-Dié-des-Vosges (Quai de Lattre, Quai Leclerc, Rue Thiers, Rue Stanislas, Rue Dauphine, Place du Général de Gaulle, etc.) has been designated as 20th century heritage by the Ministry of Culture.
Freedom Tower
Resembling a large white bird in the middle of Mansuy Park, it symbolises the quest of all peoples for freedom. The tower was erected by Vosges architects Nicolas Normier and Jean-Marie Hennin to commemorate the bicentenary of the French Revolution. It was first erected in Paris, in the Tuileries Gardens, in 1989, flanked by a similar tower. The town of Saint-Dié-des-Vosges was asked to host it the following year for a symbolic franc. It was inaugurated on 14 July 1990.
ROSHEIM AND CYCLING
Rosheim has been awarded the "Ville à vélo du Tour de France" label, which recognises local authorities that are committed to promoting mobility by bicycle. Open to all local authorities that have hosted the Tour de France or the Tour de France Femmes at least once, the label rewards the entire policy of promoting cycling in the area, whether as a means of daily transport, a source of leisure or for competitive purposes. Rosheim was awarded three of the four bicycles in the category: the jury particularly appreciated the quality of the greenway, which "offers an unusual experience to residents and visitors, bringing a strong local dynamism to the area". The cycle paths running through the municipality were also appreciated, as were the cycle training facilities.
TO EAT:
The Ropfkueche
This Alsatian brioche with nuts and cream is the speciality of Rosheim. Along with Kouglof, Streusel, and Männele, Ropfkueche is another Alsatian leavened speciality. Topped with a lightly caramelised nut mixture, it is still only found in the Rosheim and Obernai region at the beginning of the 21st century.
Saint-Dié-des-Vosges to Rosheim, 128.6 km
COMMENTARY FROM MARION ROUSSE
A rollercoaster stage with several small climbs scattered along the route. The last of these, on the final circuit around Rosheim, could prove decisive with less than ten kilometres to go. The crossing of the Alsatian winelands won’t be easy and a long breakaway could reward the breakaway specialists at the expense of the sprinters.
SAINT DIÉ DES VOSGES SIGHTS
Pierre Noël Museum
The Pierre-Noël Museum has recently undergone a facelift to improve the reception and comfort of visitors. The spaces dedicated to the 20th century, which are rooted in the destruction of the city in 1944, are now visible and open onto post-war issues in terms of architecture with Le Corbusier, design and industry with Jean Prouvé and art with the New School of Paris in particular...
Also to be discovered is the collection of Claire and Yvan Goll, figures of surrealism, as well as the abstraction of the 1950s through the works of Zao Wouki, Bazaine, Manessier, Fernand Léger, Pierre Didier...
The Claude and Duval factory
Built: 1946
Listing: Unesco World Heritage Site. Listed as a historical monument in 1988.
History: In July 1946, industrialist Jean-Jacques Duval entrusted Le Corbusier with the reconstruction of his hosiery factory, founded in 1908 and two-thirds destroyed in November 1944. The architect seized the opportunity to create a functional "green factory" that was 20 pc less expensive than a traditional building. The factory was rebuilt on its original site near the ruined cathedral.
Characteristics: Le Corbusier designed a project that is attached to one of the former workshops on the ground floor. The building, 80-metres long and about 12.50-metres wide, resembles a small housing unit mounted on stilts, three storeys high and covered with a self-contained roof terrace. Technically and plastically, the factory successfully combines a concrete frame with two blind gable walls made of reused pink sandstone. The ceilings are painted with brightly coloured rectangles. The resulting contrast of materials and colours places this work in the tradition of the villas of the 1930s, which already heralded the Brutalism of the post-war years. The largely glazed workshops are protected by concrete brise-soleils which play an aesthetic as well as a functional role. These were the first in Le Corbusier's work in France, only a few months before those of the Marseille Habitation Unit.
Current destination: the Manufacture de Saint-Dié-des-Vosges, Claude et Duval factory is a textile factory still in operation today. The company mainly manufactures luxury knitwear for women. The factory is listed as a Unesco World Heritage Site, as is the entire work of Le Corbusier.
Celtic camp of La Bure
Period: Second Iron Age.
Listing: listed as a historical monument in 1982,
Characteristics: La Bure is the second major archaeological site in Lorraine after Grand. Overlooking the Meurthe valley, the site consists of a naturally fortified rocky ridge, whose defensive character was reinforced from the 2nd century BC by a series of fortified works. Covering an area of 3 hectares, the site was the subject of several excavation campaigns between 1964 and 1986. These excavations brought to light the remains of craft activities (forge work, stone extraction, etc.), agricultural activities and cultural activities (sculpted representations of several divinities linked to the cults of Dianes, Jupiter and Mercury) as well as more than a thousand coins (Gallic and Roman) testifying to important exchanges.
20th century heritage
The whole of the town centre on the right bank of the second reconstruction of Saint-Dié-des-Vosges (Quai de Lattre, Quai Leclerc, Rue Thiers, Rue Stanislas, Rue Dauphine, Place du Général de Gaulle, etc.) has been designated as 20th century heritage by the Ministry of Culture.
Freedom Tower
Resembling a large white bird in the middle of Mansuy Park, it symbolises the quest of all peoples for freedom. The tower was erected by Vosges architects Nicolas Normier and Jean-Marie Hennin to commemorate the bicentenary of the French Revolution. It was first erected in Paris, in the Tuileries Gardens, in 1989, flanked by a similar tower. The town of Saint-Dié-des-Vosges was asked to host it the following year for a symbolic franc. It was inaugurated on 14 July 1990.
ROSHEIM AND CYCLING
Rosheim has been awarded the "Ville à vélo du Tour de France" label, which recognises local authorities that are committed to promoting mobility by bicycle. Open to all local authorities that have hosted the Tour de France or the Tour de France Femmes at least once, the label rewards the entire policy of promoting cycling in the area, whether as a means of daily transport, a source of leisure or for competitive purposes. Rosheim was awarded three of the four bicycles in the category: the jury particularly appreciated the quality of the greenway, which "offers an unusual experience to residents and visitors, bringing a strong local dynamism to the area". The cycle paths running through the municipality were also appreciated, as were the cycle training facilities.
TO EAT:
The Ropfkueche
This Alsatian brioche with nuts and cream is the speciality of Rosheim. Along with Kouglof, Streusel, and Männele, Ropfkueche is another Alsatian leavened speciality. Topped with a lightly caramelised nut mixture, it is still only found in the Rosheim and Obernai region at the beginning of the 21st century.
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Who can bet against Wiebes? The other riders could not even stay on her wheel to draft in the final sprint.
- Aug 3, 2015
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Yeah well, thats the thing with flat stages as well in women's races, right? I saw the route, and decided not to go out of my way to watch the last couple of hours which I have done on a couple of occasions these first stages in the Tour. The stages where ASO wanted there to be a race, there was a race. Its basically the equivalent of making a 250 km long stage in the middle of nowhere in France with no obstacles in the men's peloton - its kinda doomed, and the distance almost just makes it worse. Especially in this day and age with full broadcast and stuff.
Would probably have been a totally different ballgame if the stage was at least decently hilly, and we got to see some shenanigans like last year's stage 7 of the Tour. That would have been interesting to see how the women coped with an increased distance. I must admit, not really following the sport AT ALL prior to this year, that I was genuinely shocked at the distances they ride, u know, since thats the stuff me and my friends are racing when we feel like signing up for a random, totally amateurish race in northern Denmark. Hell, most races are longer on average, so I guess my point is I think its a great thing they increase the distances, but there's no point in doing so when all you are gonna serve up are totally flat roads.
- Feb 24, 2014
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If I'm not mistaken, even organizing a female's race is a business.
There are bidders, logistics, and improvisation's limited by profitability.
Fitting in the sporting criteria further narrows down the possibilities.
Design's eternal topic here, complaints often sensible, but one-sided.
Think for a moment about all the temporarily or permanently canceled races and keep in mind how long did it take to come up with this format. That's an useful perspective.
There are bidders, logistics, and improvisation's limited by profitability.
Fitting in the sporting criteria further narrows down the possibilities.
Design's eternal topic here, complaints often sensible, but one-sided.
Think for a moment about all the temporarily or permanently canceled races and keep in mind how long did it take to come up with this format. That's an useful perspective.
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- May 29, 2011
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So, how do you better informed posters see the GC situation: am I hopelessly wrong thinking that unless AvV finds her best legs Kasia is in a very good position for the overall?
Hm, the last few years, Kasia has not seemed to be among the top 3 on longer climbs, as far as I remember. If AvV gets her leg back I would guess it is very realistic for her to take 1 minute on Kasia the last three stages.
If AVV is in shape then no-one stands a chance.
- Oct 1, 2014
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Vollering is the media darling to compete against AVV, but I reckon Moolman- Pasio is better suited on the longer climbs which will feature in stage seven.
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It would have been better if it had been hillier, but I guess it was alright to have another flat stage before three harder stages, though today could also end up being a sprint. And people not that familiar with the women's side of the sport was able to learn that Wiebes is the best sprinter in the world.
Right now, 175 km would be better suited for a one-day race.
Moolman-pasio has looked really smooth on the climbs so far, but the climbs this weekend are another level completely. Can’t wait!
- Feb 20, 2010
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Historically Kasia's threshold for climbs seems to hit a sweet spot in the 5-8km kind of range, with her not being as effective on the climbs too much longer than that. As such, Super-Planche ought to be in her range but Le Grand Ballon on stage 7 is going to be the concern for her. She's only five seconds ahead of Longo Borghini, who has won the Route de France by triumphing at Planche des Belles Filles too, so I wouldn't write Elisa out; she tends to have one bad day per Giro, but the old RDF was 7 stages and she was fine there, so I think she's pretty well positioned too.
SD Worx have a quandary on their hands, in that Ash is probably the superior pure climber, but Demi is typically stronger all-round. Their H2H on mountain stages is completely even, although Demi is 4-2 up in the last 18 months since they've been teammates at SD Worx. Ash put 29 seconds into her on Prato Nevoso but Demi then took 24 back on Cascata del Toce, then Ash put a minute and a half on her teammate on Monte Matajûr. So far this season Demi hasn't looked as strong as last year, but we have precious few mountain stages to go by, the two she has entered she won, but they were against a weaker field in Itzulia Women (although Ash was riding as a helper there), and after losing time on the GC in the Vuelta a Burgos. So, on a "what have you done for me lately" basis they ought to back Demi, but in terms of who, at this moment in time, has the highest ceiling as a pure climber, I think it's very close but might just have to favour Moolman, as if they're still more or less equal on time after today, that's the terrain where Vollering holds the clear advantage dispensed with.
Labous at +1'09 is a threat too if Annemiek isn't at her best, as a Frenchwoman she will have targeted this race, and she won the GC at Burgos and a mountain stage - albeit from a breakaway - in the Giro.
SD Worx have a quandary on their hands, in that Ash is probably the superior pure climber, but Demi is typically stronger all-round. Their H2H on mountain stages is completely even, although Demi is 4-2 up in the last 18 months since they've been teammates at SD Worx. Ash put 29 seconds into her on Prato Nevoso but Demi then took 24 back on Cascata del Toce, then Ash put a minute and a half on her teammate on Monte Matajûr. So far this season Demi hasn't looked as strong as last year, but we have precious few mountain stages to go by, the two she has entered she won, but they were against a weaker field in Itzulia Women (although Ash was riding as a helper there), and after losing time on the GC in the Vuelta a Burgos. So, on a "what have you done for me lately" basis they ought to back Demi, but in terms of who, at this moment in time, has the highest ceiling as a pure climber, I think it's very close but might just have to favour Moolman, as if they're still more or less equal on time after today, that's the terrain where Vollering holds the clear advantage dispensed with.
Labous at +1'09 is a threat too if Annemiek isn't at her best, as a Frenchwoman she will have targeted this race, and she won the GC at Burgos and a mountain stage - albeit from a breakaway - in the Giro.
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Longo Borghini has had a bad start to the stage. First she had a mechanical, and then a split happened in the bunch right when she had made it back. But it seems everything has come back together again now.
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- Mar 22, 2010
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Watch it and learn all about it, because all things being equal, there will at last be a women's CQ game next year.Hey guys, I‘ve been watching men‘s pro cycling since 1997, and probably always will.
Would you, the experts, recommend me to watch also some women‘s pro cycling, for example the Tour Femmes? Are these women fast, and are the races nice to watch (tactics, bike handling, and so on)?
Thanks in advance
Watch this space.
(Well, not this one: watch out for a space that has yet to be created)
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